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Hobbs and Shaw

August 20, 2021 Mike and Anthony
Mike and Anthony's Soda Pop Culture Club: Celebrating movies of the 80's, 90's and beyond
Hobbs and Shaw
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This week we take a spin with the lone spin off of “The Fast and the Furious” franchise. We are discussing “Hobbs and Shaw”. We see Shaw is not such a bad guy and has a hot sister. We also learn Hobbs wasn’t always such a good guy and has a not so hot brother. Listen as we talk Ryan Reynolds, snowflakes, great insults and super human characters.

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Michael:

There is a virus called snowflake and it's all these butthurt people online Welcome to franchise Fridays or should I say family Fridays? Oh Mike and Anthony Soda Pop Culture Club as you know me and my co host Antwan.

Anthony:

Hello Mr. Och small.

Michael:

My name is Mike Oh, started tackling the Fast and Furious franchise but before we get to that, don't forget to visit our website Soda Pop Culture Club comm where you can buy some merch listen to every episode, make movie suggestions and check out our release schedule. Also, make sure to follow subscribe and rate our podcasts on whatever platform you choose to enjoy it on. And it would be super awesome if you share it with your friends so they too can enjoy it. And now Anton is gonna tell you what movie we're tackling today if you're if you're looking at it in order I don't think it's a secret but he likes to make it seem like it's one. Oh no, I

Anthony:

don't give two shits. People know what it is they click on it they know what the fucking title The movie is. They know what we're doing. We're doing Hobbs and Shaw it's really kind of part of the Fast Furious franchise more of a spin off sister kind of movie. But there's two guys that were came in they introduced us from Fast and Furious because we got the rock guy Jason say them so they did their own thing together now cuz that's pretty much what they're gonna do. Because a rock was gonna do movies with Vin Diesel anymore. Anyway, so this is Hobbs and Shaw. Fast and Furious part 8.5. We'll call it Oh, yeah,

Michael:

yeah. All right, this one delayed the release f nine. But, but you're right, but I think because they talked about doing this movie because of the relationship like the chemistry of stay them in the rock. Yes, that's what made Vin Diesel pissy. It's like no longer was he the? The I don't know how you call it the the head of the family all the time, the alpha, the alpha, double Alpha Man candy. Ah, so yeah. So we're doing Hobbs and Shaw. So do you want to give a quick synopsis

Anthony:

of this? Alright, basically, in a nutshell, we have a new thing that's going to destroy the world as we have with any Fast and Furious related movies anymore. This is a nasty virus that will melt you from the inside it will kill half of the fucking population in the world. And we need to take the raw Hobbs and team him up with not Calvin but Shaw. And they gotta even though they hate each other, they got to do it. Shawn's got to do it because the virus is now in his up in his sister. And then the rocks gonna do it because he might get up in his sister to possibly we don't know yet. We don't know what they're gonna do. It's awesome. The sumbitch and the wangka are gonna get together to save fucking world, again, against Brixton lore, who is pretty much fucking Superman.

Michael:

Yeah, this movie, this, these movies are going in crazy places. So I'm gonna take you into the rotten tomatoes, and we'll get this rocking and rolling. All right. All right. So what do you think the budget was on this beast?

Anthony:

There was a lot of shit in this movie. As far as stunts and action sequences, so I gotta admit, or I gotta assume it was up there. But also, I didn't know there's that but at the same time, we don't have the whole cast of the fast movies that they're paying salaries to so I think that does affect it some? Yeah, let's say I really don't. 180 million.

Michael:

Whoa, that's close. Is it? Maybe you're cheating? I don't know. Cheating close.

Anthony:

I'm not fucking cheating.

Michael:

To 200 million. So you're just okay. So they spent some money on this. I mean, Brian Reynolds alone made 100 of that, I think. Yeah, he should. He, he's pretty awesome. So um, let's see. What do you think it made though, in the box office? What do you think it did? Um,

Anthony:

I'm going to assume it did not cross the billion dollar mark, but I'm sure it probably did. Well. I actually enjoyed it. So yeah, that means I had to do well.

Michael:

So I'm saying

Anthony:

to our man, see 610,000,600 $10,000,017?

Michael:

Here, you're wrong because you're right on it. You're you were low on both regards. This is 760 million. Okay, billion dollars, but a lot of money. That's a lot of chatter. It's a profit. So knowing that, what do you think the critics thought of it?

Anthony:

Um, well, they've been fairly decent to the fast movies. So, I don't know, though. I'll say 71

Michael:

you're a little over the mark. It was 67%. Okay. That's pretty close, though. I mean, you know, you didn't want to go too high. But you know, could be good enough. So you don't know. But what do you think the audience thought of this movie?

Anthony:

Again, I enjoyed it. That's all I'm saying. So I'll save it. I'll say they liked it. Now here's my thing. Just tried to guess it. I don't know the audience. It made money. But I don't know if the audience like if they liked it, but didn't like that. It wasn't actual Fast and Furious movie that you didn't have everybody else in it. So I don't know. I'm almost wonder if that pushed it down. Some. They didn't want to Corona. They didn't want to like it as much as the Fast and Furious movies. I don't know. So I'm just gonna guess it was. I still think it's probably above the critics. So I'll say 73

Michael:

it was even higher than that. 88% for the audience

Anthony:

aren't really like I did like it too. So

Michael:

there you go. So I got you some positive review here by birth of the Boston Globe. He says all the films in this franchise are family affairs, but you may find yourself wanting to spend more time on this branch of the tree I thought that was a good little that's a pretty good Okay, so Sarah Michelle fetters of movie freak calm and Oh, that's a that's a tiger The Boston Globe so Sherif, myself fetters of movie freak calm, says it's a lark, a goof, a live action cartoon, the final product as supercilious piece of frivolous fluff that frequently had me rolling my eyes and incredulous disgust.

Anthony:

Okay. Tell us how you really

Michael:

discuss. I will say that right there. I don't think that review was written for any reason other than to write a bunch of words that they thought that people who would watch this movie, they just wouldn't understand them just to feel self important. I think that's what that was. I don't think because you could have said it's shit. That's just as excrement you know? It's a fake piece of shit. That looks like a cartoon. You could have said it in layman's terms and said that right, you know, so I think they're just being a little self important with their with their wording their little bit more serious. I need to work here every day.

Anthony:

Very similar to

Michael:

Yeah. What's that? American Pie? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that was a Varsity Blues wasn't? No, that was American Pie. Was it? Okay, so it was alright. See, I can't

Anthony:

I know you can't eat a dick. So don't be with me and say No, that wasn't it. It was it.

Michael:

I have argued with you in the past and one. That's why I've got to keep you in check. I got to make sure you're strong when? You know, when times where I've been right and you've been wrong. That's a straw man argument. That is a gaslighting statement that you're saying there. You're telling me to name a time when when we both know there has been a time that I have corrected you on something and you know it.

Anthony:

Again, if there had been a time you would have wrote it down on a fucking calendar to remember that day. I know what it was.

Michael:

It isn't that monumentous because you're wrong a lot. So not all the time. You're right more often than you are wrong, but you are wrong enough that I ever corrected you.

Anthony:

Do you better move on now, bitch. Let's go right.

Michael:

So you want me to read the first one? Yeah, go ahead. All right. In London Hattie Shah and her team of EMI six agents attempt to retrieve a programmable super virus dubbed snowflake. Or everybody on the internet that doesn't like to be enraged from Tech no terrorist organization at on. I don't think that's how you say it. Brixton lore and 80 on operative and cybernetic what's up with cybernetic implants that allow him to perform superhuman feats arrives and kills all the agents except Hattie, who injects The only dose of snowflake into herself before escaping brixon frames Hattie for killing her team and stealing snowflake, forcing her to go on the run. Exciting snow likes.

Anthony:

I know when you when you feel like, like a puppy or something

Unknown:

that dogs

Michael:

I just think of the term snowflake online. You know, when you make someone say, oh, what's up snowflake, you know? You know, switch. That's what I'm hearing and they're like, Oh shit, this is the day there is a virus called snowflake and it's all these butthurt people online.

Anthony:

So is the antidote called asshole?

Michael:

Yeah, that's the antidote shouldn't be at all, or fire SIBO. Now, a couple things. Isn't this the same plot as MIT? Except for the frame job? virus? Yeah, like injecting yourself with the virus in order to keep the bad guys from getting it.

Anthony:

I'm sure it's been done. And other things too, though.

Michael:

That's right. Famous. Remember the cholera thing? That's where I you know, Tom Cruise movies hard to forget.

Anthony:

I mean, it's just like, my No, it's like hiding the drugs in your butt. but different. Yeah.

Michael:

hiding the trucks. A little bit different. Now, after her scene, which is pretty cool. We kind of see the superhuman nature of Brixton lore, the way you can punch that door through and Yeah, kind of show how he he sees the people and sees the threats with this thing in his head. However, that works, I don't know. But we kind of get to work right away, see what he's about. Then once they're done with those scenes, we get into seeing the differences between Hobbs and Shaw. When they wake up in the morning. What do you think of their line? How they're different?

Anthony:

I like Shaw's a lot better. Sean's got that nice, delicious looking omelet. I'm like, Yeah, that looks good.

Michael:

hot chick laying in bed.

Anthony:

Yeah. The day after I watched this. I actually had to make an omelet for breakfast because I was like, That looks so good.

Michael:

Oh, awesome. Oh, man. I wish you around here. You could have made me one. Man. Good.

Anthony:

Well, I could have I put cheese in mine.

Michael:

True. Hobbs is all business. He's like, I'm getting up. I'm pumping iron. I'm focused on you know, just doing this and then Shawn.

Anthony:

Nope. Don't time to cook the eggs.

Michael:

Oh, no. He drank those fucking eggs.

Anthony:

No time.

Michael:

Fucking drink. Are you muted? I hit it. I hit it for a second day me alone. This is not the first time this is no take on this. We keep it in Sha he just takes the time to to enjoy a cup of coffee, you know, enjoy some of the little things you know, he doesn't like get right in the business every day.

Anthony:

Well, you got to have some downtime. downtime is very important. True.

Michael:

True. And I like because we get this movie. We get more of Hobbes life. Like you know, learn that he is Samoan. You see his his kid? You know, you kind of understand a little more about him. Although it's a different kid than the first one. I think. I think they changed kids. From the first time we are in the seven.

Anthony:

Let's check that out.

Michael:

I this effect I think I have it. Um, but yeah, I like his cheat day stack of pancakes. You know? That's actually cool.

Anthony:

I've seen a picture of him on he put on Twitter something about his cheat his actual cheat day meal. And what is this? It was a stack of French toast about that size? With probably like, a government size can have peanut butter dumped on top of it. fuck dude, really?

Michael:

Oh, man. Like, yeah, that is I would have that as some shit.

Anthony:

It is some shit. Literally. You would have to take a shit before you even finish the meal. Be like half time. Hold on. Now,

Michael:

we got to poop and rally poop and rally. Now, we also meet Shaw's family and they're a strange family. Well, we meet we see him talking to his mother and stuff. They just are a strange family man. Like they're all criminals. With Yeah. But But in this movie, we learn a little more about decherd. And we realize he's not really yeah, the criminal that he's made out to be So it makes me wonder how it makes me now think that he's the good one and they're all shit. Like the rest of his family is a piece of shit. Pretty much. Kinda. I mean, that's what I'm getting. That's all I'm saying. They're telling

Anthony:

shit though, too. So now he's just got he's got let's just say he has a very flexible relationship with the law. How about that?

Michael:

Yeah, he has a flexible relationship with it, but it's because of what happened to him what we learned what happen him being framed by the guy. Yeah. I do like though we get Ryan Reynolds in the Fast and Furious universe, yes. Enough universe, and I hope we get more of him down the road because that would be interesting. It can make you wonder if it's going to be a Hobbs and Shaw movie, or is it going to be in the f 10? Or f 11? The two more movies that are coming out? I don't know. I don't know. But

Anthony:

because he was awesome and as usual,

Michael:

and, uh, and one of those facts we go over, is that they were thinking about having him appear as What's his name? Deadpool. Wade? In this movie? Yeah. Having you appear as Deadpool in the movie that would have been interesting giving that information. What events that would have been fun.

Anthony:

I mean, that the universe at this point, everything else they've done with this franchise? Like, why not?

Michael:

Why not? Maybe Why not? Why not? Why not? Alright, I want you to read the next. I mean, go ahead with this. At

Anthony:

this point. I think they could bring half a Space Jam into this movie, and it would still work for people

Michael:

speaking on Space Jam. I have heard that's a hot mess. Oh, it sucked compared to the first one.

Anthony:

not a huge fan of the first one either, though.

Michael:

But I heard it's a hot mess. Comparatively even like, gets real bad.

Anthony:

Whatever. I had to watch it.

Michael:

I know. I haven't. I have not. But now that I've heard that. I've heard that it's like, I don't think so. Now you can now rent if you want to. Everybody out there if you want to rent f nine you can do it on Amazon now.

Anthony:

You can

Michael:

20 bucks. Yeah, I don't like it. so worth it though. It is it is I might do it again. Just so like oh worth it. You know, cuz we're gonna do it after this one. We're doing that when we're doing.

Anthony:

We're doing it. We're finishing it up, right.

Michael:

We're finishing up right. So read this next section so we can finish this up right.

Anthony:

So shortly after the confrontation against cyber terrorists cipher, Luke Hobbs and Decker char both informed of the missing virus and are reluctantly recruited to work together to track it down. Again, the sumbitch and the banker. After a brief meeting at CIA black site, decherd goes to Hades apart or Eddie's apartment for information, only to get attacked by ATM. Ops. While Hobbs manages to find Hattie. After a brief scuffle. He brings her to the CIA office as decherd then arrives and informs Hobbs that Hattie is actually his sister, and he's all like, No way she's way too good looking to be your sister. The office is attacked and Hattie is taken by Brixton, who decherd recognizes as an old colleague turned enemy that he public kept in his head. He previously shot and supposedly killed Hobbs and decherd pursue and rescue Hetty, and during an suing car chase managed with no drifting involved manage to escape from Brixton, who crashes into a double decker bus however, Brixton frames all three as traders via aeons control of global news media. They are Wanted Fugitives.

Michael:

Oh, yes. I love the I love what happens in this. And this. And this. I love some of the lines. dragging my balls up.

Anthony:

Timeout Are you wearing on your head?

Michael:

I'm wearing a chef's hat. Just know who the chef is? Because I have one and I thought you'd like to see me in it. Now. I don't know. Can he make so I'm cooking this shit up, bitch. Yes.

Anthony:

Can't make pizza. No.

Michael:

No, I can I can make pizza dough. Don't be like that. I can do it. You're not sure I can't. I have made it. I just you know miscalculated some things last time. Yeah, but listening to you is like dragging my balls across shattered glass. detail. Now they say that in the movie. I thought that's funny. Oh, those

Anthony:

back and forth between them at the beginning.

Michael:

Yes. Oh, hey, it's your face. Oh, man. Yeah, they say some shit. Like, reach down your neck or go so far up your ass like, like, the rock can say so many different ways how to shove things in you violently. That it's funny. You just you just hear it and you're like, oh my god. Yeah, I've got one for every every occasion. One for every occasion.

Anthony:

He must have like, insulted the week underwear. Yeah, or the day Yeah.

Michael:

Now I was gonna go like one of the things I was going to ask you is this franchise going towards the superhuman bad guy like the bad guy that it's kind of like Marvel almost and that you have this bigger than life thing that it's hard to beat?

Anthony:

I thought they're already going towards the super human good guys. We've already talked about that. Nobody fucking hurt and they can jump off of planes land on cars and all this. Are they superhuman? What's going on?

Michael:

Yeah, but no one cybernetic no one's you know Maybe they aren't they don't know it. How about that? Yeah, yeah. But you know what, you're right in the future, like number 12 it's gonna be a time travel one where in the future someone said, Man, we need to go back and make these people like the terminators.

Anthony:

Yes. I can totally see it happening seriously.

Michael:

And this whole time they implanted them so they could save the world.

Anthony:

And that's for human. That's how they get so good at fighting. And all the stuff you're wondering, like, how did they get this? This good at martial arts and all this stuff. That's how they got programmed to do it.

Michael:

Because between Tokyo Drift and number four, they were replaced with T Terminator technology. And that's why, and that's when they started becoming good at fighting and doing

Anthony:

I've got it. I've got how to bring this whole thing full circle. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna find out they're all fucking superhuman. They've been like, mechanically wired to be like, yeah, superheroes. Just like, Well, yeah, flashbacks and stuff with Tokyo Drift and all that. Yeah, tell you what's gonna happen. Go ahead. We're gonna see at the end of the next movie, they find out they're super human, but they don't know why. Or how, what happened, then, we're going to flashback to the very first movie. Okay? Where he goes to get the tuna sandwich. And all the cartoons roll up. And then you're going to see a frame down the street is a DeLorean

Unknown:

Fuck you.

Anthony:

That's what they're gonna do. I'm just calling it right now.

Michael:

Oh, man, and Mr. Nobody gets out. Anybody gets out.

Anthony:

The only way to bring time travel into this is going to be with another awesome car. It's got to be the DeLorean.

Michael:

It's got to be the DeLorean. And it's that's two derivative, I think. But I'll take it. But I'll take it. I'll take it. Oh, it's a it. This one and this movie to me. felt a little even more outlandish than the rest of the series at this point like like it just feels like a little more outlandish. Just I don't know

Anthony:

Well, I mean I think when you're now when the stunts and everything it's just you know par for the course at this point. It's all fucking crazy shit. But I think when you're introducing genetically enhanced cyber people yes a little different now.

Michael:

Well, the because we get to that chase where they're all three in the car. And that motorcycle the way it does all the weird stuff, you know, like it feels so superhero type like it just seems like it's gone further than they have on any other. At least cars did what cars do other than get flat tires, and other movies. That's what they do. That's the one thing we never seen cars do what cars do? Well, yeah, they do what cars do right like

Anthony:

I forgive tires. Yes, Dom can ride his freakin charger across Russian snow hit the nos and still not spin out.

Michael:

That was a modified Russian charger. And remember there was a jet pack on the back. So the jet pack that use thrust not not friction to to propel it.

Anthony:

Stop talking and take that stupid hat off.

Michael:

I like this hat. I don't want to take it off. But I liked all three of them in the car by the way. And that was a great chasing though. I like how it ended I like he goes on they how they go into the semi. It was really cool how it ended up in that double decker bus although there are some bodies I think somewhere in here. I once again there are body are always are

Anthony:

always are.

Michael:

Yeah, like I feel they sometimes skip over. You know people die. Now these uh, what I find is interesting is that this is none of them's first time it being wanted criminals. Yeah, it's old hat and Hobbs is like formerly I want to criminal. So it's like, yeah, whatever, whatever. It's like, we get around that all the time. Just makes it a little more

Anthony:

inconvenient. But

Michael:

that's fine. But we'll make it happen. So yeah. All right. So am I reading this next section? I believe so. All right, give me a moment here. As everybody waits everybody meaning you all right, the three locate Professor on Draco. I don't even have to say his fucking name. who explains that he created snowflake to efficiently deliver vaccines very apropos, and to prevent atheon from using the super virus to eradicate humanity hatti while the virus is still dormant, must either be cremated or have the virus removed with a specialized extraction device, which is located in at on special facility. in Chernobyl, Ukraine, although Hobbs was briefly detained due to decherd, making his fake alias, Mike och small the three is to travel to Moscow. After rendezvous with decades former flame Margarita Moscow, the three infiltrate the facility, they managed to retrieve the device before escaping however, and Draco is killed and the device was damaged during their escape. And the facilities destruction. I can't. It is it is definitely a challenge. It's interesting how the snowflake was created to deliver vaccines. Yeah. And that's very much something that would be nice to have right now. It would be good.

Anthony:

It would be helpful.

Michael:

We could give out to millions of people. Yeah. I mean, is it that out? But here's the thing. Does it have to be injected into you? Because they make us sound like it's something that can just be passed on somehow? Yeah,

Anthony:

I don't understand. All I know is most of the people that haven't gotten it yet aren't going to get it if you call it snowflake.

Michael:

No cuz a Yeah, I don't want to cause you imagine project snowflake. We're getting you all vaccinated. They are snowflakes though.

Anthony:

You call it? No. I think it's the ones that call people snowflakes are the ones that still haven't gotten it yet. That's what I mean. Ironically, they are the salt. Yes,

Michael:

yes. They are. Ironically, the snowflakes. Maybe call it Oh, the irony. The Red Bull vaccine or something? Yeah, yeah. He has a Red Bull vaccine called anything. Bull semen. about that. There you go. From a stud Rocky Mountain oyster. It's strange. The mystery voice that comes over when? After the chase and he lets him he get they get away. Yeah. And he's talking to his mystery handlers. Whoever they are. They want he wants him to make them. Turn for them. Yeah, he wants to turn them. A little. little side note on that mystery voice. That's supposed to be well who it is recorded those lines actually was Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, that's the mystery voice. But we don't but that's just a fact. That's not necessarily a plotline. That's right. We don't know that. That really means anything. Because who they really want it to be the mystery voice is Keanu Reeves. Yeah, is who they vision being in this role.

Anthony:

And then you're fast and furious with the matrix. Because you gotta cross it over to something at this point,

Michael:

are john wick or john wick? Which I think john wicks are better series, but it's really good. I don't know if you've ever watched it. Yes. It is. Okay. I personally, in my opinion, they should have killed Hattie. And burner. I think that boulder boulder had ended it all it would have saved a lot of grief. Wow, they would had nothing to fight for the ATM people have just moved in. They would have been gone. It's snowflake would have been done. What do you think?

Anthony:

I think you're an asshole.

Michael:

That's not an asshole. It's the trolley problem. We've talked about this. It's worth killing that one person to make sure millions don't get killed because of the thing that's in them. So

Anthony:

if you're Sean, that's your sister. You think that's that's what you would have done?

Unknown:

No, I'm thinking that's the rock should have done and killed Shafi tried to stop him. That's not the rock style. He's not going to kill somebody if he doesn't have to.

Michael:

Well, I understand that he's Mr. Family to just like Dom somehow and he considers her in the family. But he wants a banger? I don't know.

Anthony:

Yeah, yeah. He wants he wants a ladder and climb that mountain.

Michael:

Oh, man. Yeah. Did you like the name gag Mike. Och small.

Anthony:

I love it. Especially since you went with Mike. Perfect.

Michael:

Thank you.

Anthony:

I think her name doesn't work for I think that chef hat actually that you're wearing right now that you look like the Pillsbury homeboy. You should actually get Oxbow embroidered across the front of

Michael:

you like this hat. No.

Anthony:

You look awesome. This man right now you look like a condom that didn't get put on all the way. And the tops just kind of flop in there.

Michael:

A poorly executed condom situation. This

Anthony:

people can see this shit seriously. But Oh, man.

Michael:

I like it. What I do like is I love the rocks. tracksuit. What do you think of that?

Anthony:

That was badass. That was epic. Yeah, he

Michael:

could. He wears it. Well, I mean, I don't know if I could get away with that.

Anthony:

You could not.

Michael:

Oh, thanks. I mean, yeah. You could

Anthony:

if you were in the chef's hat because that would distract from how stupid you look in the tracksuit.

Michael:

The ridiculousness would go upstairs, right? Do you think adding Kevin Hart was too much?

Anthony:

I does. I really didn't do anything. You know, it was almost like adding him but he's barely in it. So it's kind of like stupid.

Michael:

You know? If it felt like putting friends in a movie, do you think that's right?

Anthony:

Yeah, it was a little bit funny. Like we were at Ryan Reynolds and all that. Yeah, it was. Now see the Ryan Reynolds thing though, cuz he's so damn funny. Not the Kevin Hart's not funny. But

Michael:

Kevin Hart's funny. He is he funny in that role? It's

Anthony:

not not the level that Ryan Reynolds brought with? Yeah, his part. Um, it was funny like them, you know, like already outing and knowing that he was, you know who he was.

Michael:

And your seconds are like, yeah, we saw this. We saw that was Yeah, you're the guy.

Anthony:

I said, No. What is it? I sit in the can of farts all day long.

Michael:

Can't afford Yes, yes. Yeah, but so i think i think it's, I don't think they needed him to do it. You could have put a nobody in there. And I write good, I think in the series in this series are so used to getting these cameos from NIH and people that I don't think that they let themselves

Anthony:

in it. To me, it's almost like, because you just had that scene, and then you had the phone call later, from his office, aka, the shitter.

Michael:

Yeah, the toilet. But that's it.

Anthony:

It's like, it's kind of like if you're gonna have Kevin Hart in it expanded a little bit, give him a couple other scenes or something. You know what I mean? It's almost like just not bad. Again,

Michael:

two scenes. Yeah,

Anthony:

it's not balanced enough. weave it in just a little bit more, I guess.

Michael:

Now, the only way it could change is if they do a second one. And somehow he is more involved.

Anthony:

That's what I'm wondering if that's the plan.

Michael:

It's just setting a groundwork for something new. Now, one of the things I think is this movie's contribution to pop culture because I have now used it the term the Mick Jagger, recently, you know, doing something really over here to well, round over here something else is happening. like giving him a show up front peacock going a little while I've used the Tiger I liked that.

Anthony:

I've used the term ox small. So I agree pop culture. There it is.

Michael:

Your what

Anthony:

I am telling you that your last name is now Oxbow.

Michael:

It's not, it was not that it is Oh man. Once you get it right now, that's what you get for being distracting them from the quality from the quality content that I provide. This is where we also learn here's why you

Anthony:

rock small, your og smalls, because the condom on your head doesn't even fit because it's too floppy.

Michael:

That's proof. It's a chef's hat. It's supposed to flop a little. Oh gosh. So Sha This is where we learn. The real truth about him is that he's really an innocent guy and a good guy. Yeah. where his team got killed by other people and it got pinned on him. And it was never him. It was a train job from the beginning. He's actually a stand up, dude. So and what really pisses me off about that? Is that how is he a stand up dude in this movie, but number six, or number seven? He fucking destroys a hospital of innocent people.

Anthony:

Because that was about family.

Michael:

Right? I'm just saying they they try to bring these back around to where people and try and make them good guys. Right. You know, the reason they had to make him good, so you can be more movies. I get it.

Anthony:

Yeah. Because you can't just keep bringing the same bad guy back. Not for this series.

Michael:

No, no, not for this. So I know who they're going to get for number 10 because now john cena Well, they killed site ciphers still out there right. Paul Cogan won't give up too much

Anthony:

Paul Cogan,

Michael:

no spoilers no spoilers sorry, we don't want to spoil your guys's fEf nine dreams.

Anthony:

Paul Cogan, is working for his secret hostile takeover company, New World Order. And he is trying to get world horror is trying to get yet another weapon of mass destruction or a virus to start a new world order and control everyone. He's gonna have a blast with Scott Hall. He's gonna have his black mustache back

Michael:

with with with the Scott Hall and the Big Show. There you go. If you know who those people are, Yeah,

Anthony:

I do. I'm just at this point. Actually, you know what your next bad guy should be a whole crew of fucking wrestlers. Just be done with it.

Michael:

Oh, yeah, triple eight. The newest those new there's a new school of wrestler that skinnier and not as big, like a group of those skeezy looking dudes with tests and

Anthony:

everything. This is what I want to see. I want to see Michelle Rodriguez. I want to see Michelle Rodriguez have to go up against the Bella Twins. That's a fight scene. I want to see ya.

Michael:

Yeah. Or and have about teesta who is in The Guardian galaxy? Yes. That'd be good one. Yeah, that'd be good. That'd be good stuff. But now he's a good guy. It's not saying she was a good guy, but the action sequence at at&t for me was over the top when they were escaping that facility. Yeah, and doing all that stuff.

Anthony:

Today I actually thought something was off.

Michael:

Yeah, like the way they're the the cars how they were doing those jumps, the the stacks coming down and hitting the thing. I mean, black Superman. I mean, doing a flying twist with your car. You go off that thing and then shooting a drone while twisting in the air. Yeah, fuck yeah, it's over the top.

Anthony:

Yeah, that's all over the test about like, fucking driving off a roof up to a helicopter and hanging a sack of grenades on it like a bag of potatoes.

Michael:

You're right man. That Yeah, this, this but I think this one took it to another level. And they end it sometimes it's a campy level. Not quite as like I feel the regular movies. I expected Hobbs and Shaw to be a little higher end with that. And I felt like it was not it was worse with it. Like even bigger because you have bigger personalities. You made even bigger things happen.

Anthony:

It's because it's still part of the Fast and Furious world. And it's more or less a sequel. It's a spin off but it's still a sequel pretty much. So you have to keep doing what crazier shit can we do than we did last movie? They like have to keep going with it. So

Michael:

that's what I expected. Right? You're right. All right. Are you ready to die read the last one.

Anthony:

You did? You did? Yeah, I did. Sorry. Your turn ready. So now Hobbs takes the trio to his childhood home in Samoa. So this turns into marijuana part to visit his his strange brother Jonah, a talented mechanic to get help repairing the device gets punched in the face of the doorstep. Hobbs has a 10th reunion with his whole family. But Jonah is eventually persuaded to help them by their mother because she's she's gonna kick some ass if they all get along. They're very scared of their mom. The makeshift Italian prepares for at odds arrival setting up a variety of traps and basically a fire pit around the island. Jonah successfully repairs the device on the island because he had tools and coconut water made it work starts virus extraction because they got 30 minutes to do it and of course this runs into it's only started like few seconds before the 30 minute start so we could just get it in the nick of time of course because that's what's gonna fucking happen. So he starts this just as Brixton and his army arrived the ensuing battle. All of Brixton soldiers are defeated whereas the Samoan suffer minimum casualties. Brixton retakes Hatty via helicopter however, Hobbs decherd in the Samoans bring the aircraft down, and when the craziest fucking things you'll ever see, working together Hobbs and Decker defeat Brixton, who was remotely terminated that by afterward by Eton's unseen director, that is Ryan Reynolds, but not really Ryan Reynolds. The director sends a message claiming Oh Hobbs and intending to persuade him and the Shah siblings, while they promised to find the director of the group then celebrates their victory. You became a motherfuckers

Michael:

Yeah, so this is where this became a fast and furious movie. Yes. Because we have family it's all about family this whole this whole series family, of course, what we find out with Hobbs it's a Samoan crime family. Yeah. Or was

Anthony:

was Yes. Now they're legit.

Michael:

He had a we he had a bat with things, you know, we get some backstory and we find out he had really a horrible childhood being forced to do criminal acts for his father. It sounds like

Anthony:

pretty fucked up. And then this dad didn't really care if they died or not. And that's when he turned that

Michael:

Yeah, once he learned that that Yeah. And and that's funny, because when they're getting ready to go to battle, he he says, Take me to the war chest pretty much and his mama shows them all their weapons, and they don't have any guns. So we're going to war. We're going to war with the family heirlooms, yet my favorite line

Anthony:

got some fucking Oh, yeah, spears.

Michael:

That's sort of what well, it's in. Those are probably authentic Samoan weapons from the past, right. But, you know, that wouldn't work very well against guns. But luckily one thing we haven't talked about is the guns they use have this thing where if your normal person grabs and they won't work, you have to have a special glove on or something unlocks it. Yeah, they have an activation glove that does it. So when So the so yeah, later on they're they're planned, which is cheesy. Their discussion of it is really cheesy in my opinion. Like it, it just had a cheeseball vibe. I don't know how to put it. What part do you mean, when they're planning the when the planning phase when they're discussing things it just seemed like, I don't know. It's not like when we watched the Fast and Furious movies when DOM and them are sitting around the table discussing things right, there's just a little bit more cheesy, it seemed a little more contrived and a little, little dorky. We're gonna go and do this, and we're gonna do that. And then they start going out and, you know, putting all the stuff it was like, I don't know, I just didn't. It seemed really like a team vibe, you know, a team, right? Good. But those were cheesy parts when they're, while they're building all the shit,

Anthony:

you got to think it was but they have limited resources. They're not sitting in their government funded, high tech facility with everything at their disposal. They got to work with what they got.

Michael:

That's so that is not true, literally, a machine and fix that.

Anthony:

You get up on the cliff and when he comes under, you drop the rock on his head. That's basically what they're

Unknown:

there he walks Yes. When you see the coyote

Michael:

come out and return the chat.

Anthony:

Right before the Roadrunner starts to run. You drop the Acme rocket and shoot it down his ass

Michael:

although I'll say you know I love me a training montage or preparations montage ever since rocky movies really introduced us to them you know cuz that's I think the first rocky that's why everybody was so in love with it. Yeah, is we got that music with the you know punching and the running through the streets and we got those training montages that made us feel like shit, I could go out and beat anything. You know? Does that well with no never drank the eggs man can't do that. Now salmonella. And I have I do have a note here. Hobbes and Hattie are a thing I guess. Like, like, we know they had some thing, but they've never really acted

Anthony:

on it. See, that's it. Well, she kisses him to seal the agreement. And then he's like, do you want to see it again? And that's about it not and that's about it. And that's what we wonder. So that's one of the things that kind of was like, what happened at the end? You know? Yeah,

Michael:

I want to know if like, she hangs out and did he give her this? You gotta be the snack mother. Sir, sure. The other family heirloom. So, like, he has a kid, right? Like, she's, she's, he's got to think about that. I wonder if she'd be good for that? I don't know. Well, hold on. I don't know.

Anthony:

Oh, I don't know how worried he is about that. Introducing a mother figure into her life, considering her kid has never met her own fucking grandmother yet until the end. or her cousins or her uncles or aunts or anybody else.

Michael:

That's your right. Hobbs has been a shitty family member. Now, he's never came back and tried to figure out Hey, what's that? Like? Like? He didn't he didn't try to go back and repair that ohana. You know that family? Yeah. That that's you know, he didn't ever went back and did it, man. So he has been kind of shitty and you're right. She's never met anybody. So you're right. Maybe he doesn't care. Maybe. It's Hey, hey, daughter. This is my fuck piece right now. Addy. She may be hanging out she may be hanging out. You can meet her but or you can't you don't have to. Oh, man, but I

Anthony:

battle is cool. She can have a she can hack eBay for you and get you anything you want. You pick a toy. She'll get it?

Michael:

Yeah, she hacky Bay. She knows what she don't mean. She got it. So the battle is kind of cool. Because they figured out a way to make the weapons not work for like six minutes. I think it is. Yeah, she's six minutes are able to fuck them up. Right like pretty good. are using the family heirlooms. They do some damage. I mean, we get to see the rock do some awesome action sequences there. I think that's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm a fan. I like anytime we get to see him lift people and throw them. Yeah. It's just good. It's entertaining. It's not Shaw's thing. He's more elegant. I guess unless brute force. He'll punch you rather than throw you? Well. He's

Anthony:

more skilled in that the rock is just I'm bigger and I'm gonna fuck you up.

Michael:

Rocket skills. He's just brute. You know, that's what I'm saying. He doesn't have to worry as much about that. Yeah. But but it is pretty fun to watch that. Now, when they take Hattie and they get her on the helicopter because they've been doing the battle and they kill kill everybody. And all of a sudden you see the Brixton taking her on the helicopter. You see the rock? Jump on the back of the truck. Did you notice how it shows him putting on a fucking t shirt to get the bag?

Anthony:

I don't know. Why would you need that for?

Michael:

What the fuck? Do you think they did it because of some sort of CGI thing. What do you mean? Like they've CGI things are there and it's easier for them to CGI the clothing than than skin? Because that's the only reason because to me, why need a fucking shirt?

Anthony:

Off wasting the time to put a shirt on? I don't think you really have time. Really? Yeah, I was wondering that too when that happened. I'm like, I mean, what's the point? Like?

Michael:

Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know. But I do like what they do with the trucks Did you? Like the they have that tow truck and they and they make it

Anthony:

up to the barrel monkeys with them?

Michael:

Yeah, that's fucking weird. I think it's, I think it's the most unrealistic thing in any of these movies.

Anthony:

That don't put me on the spot with that because that's too hard to say right now. As far as what you mean when they hit the brakes and they know shit we've seen up to this point. I at this point, I'm like, I can't say oh, this is the dumbest thing or craziest thing I've ever saying so I'm already there. Everything is but this is fun. Oh, it is the biggest barrel of monkeys game of monkeys game ever put on screen so

Michael:

I will say that the part that says makes me think that what I was saying is that when the one in front of Jonah hits his brakes, it naturally the little things swing up and just get on to a swing arms on his car. Like Like, it's like, just he knows it's latched. Like there's nothing that says For sure. But they just know. Like, I don't know. So now I'm like, It seems so.

Anthony:

So out there. That was the one part that made it unrealistic for you. That's what you're saying.

Michael:

Yeah,

Anthony:

how the car hooked on to the six car

Michael:

something like that. So

Anthony:

now you think about the rock catching the 400 pound chain in midair, bringing it back and reeling it back in like he's catching a Guppy in the pond. That How do you get that last hitch on there? I gotcha

Michael:

that fucking hipster man you know the rock yeah rock holding the helicopter and doing that that that's possible because he's Superman. But the but those hitches man they can't do that

Anthony:

now that there that's another thing we could have brought that into another universe too. Will Smith could have been driving roll up all the sudden pitch fucking there's so much so many ways you could tie this into different universes now.

Michael:

If it was john wick john wick would have killed everybody and they would all be dead. That I would like to see Yeah. Now they do they they do eventually get the chopper down. They get it down in that golly and they and they fight and what kills me is they finally work together when it's all about to end you know how do you sit there and that guy's watching them watching they're gonna shooter once that thing's done and they finally get their shit together. Right when everything is about to end it's it's it's so weird. Like they like before they couldn't have worked together knowing what the what was at stake like the how the last scene in the movie

Anthony:

and of course why I think that if they work together too early, it just spoils everything that the movie is just not believable. Cuz you're like they don't like each other. This doesn't Okay.

Michael:

The next Hobbs and Shaw movie though you mean think we've now we know.

Anthony:

That's half the battle.

Michael:

Yeah, I think you know they let that fucking at on decommissioned Brixton. I thought they should have killed him. That's my opinion.

Anthony:

Instead of him get out okay. He thought they

Michael:

said let him do it. Do it themselves. Let's just do this head off. Fucking take it out. Yeah, do some. I don't know. Shoot him. Kill him. I don't care. Just shoot it ended them and then they have that. To me. The cheesy ending? I thought it was cheesy the heart over machines bullshit. Yeah, that was I'm not a fan of like I said there's some. There's some things in this movie that are troubling. That's one of them. Like some of the there's some cheesiness to me in this movie. There's some cheese factor. There's some fairly good sequences but then there's some cheese. There is ease and I want to say to me, this to me, is the voice we hear Dr. claw from Inspector Gadget. That's the crossover. I think we just got

Anthony:

Oh shit. He thinks so.

Michael:

Because do that and that Yeah, I think that's Dr. claw, man, and we're gonna see a fucking super Inspector Gadget go type of situation. I'm down for that. Yeah. Because it's just like a voice. You don't see them. You don't see them ever really, you know, and you just hear the voice so I'm down against that.

Anthony:

Or maybe it's Charlie.

Michael:

Oh, from Charlie's Angels. Yeah. What about that? Oh man that that well,

Unknown:

but Charlie didn't have a his voice was his voice it wasn't altered or anything like Dr. Claus was saying maybe he altered it for this because he didn't want them to know. Oh, that's just that's Charlie

Anthony:

can't know it yet until the video in part 13.

Michael:

And then we have a crossover of Charlie's Angels and this franchise. Inverse I want them fucking Charlie's Angels movies made money.

Anthony:

So right now we can cross Charlie's Angels. Back to the Future Inspector Gadget Deadpool. Hey, yeah. And

Michael:

yeah,

Anthony:

I'm sure somehow bring it on. We can probably get in there too. Yeah, we

Michael:

could or biker boys biker boys. There you go. That was the attempt at doing a motorcycle version of fast and furious. Alright, so let's go on to the last section of this. Are you ready? Ready? In the mid and posts credit scenes Hobbs brings his daughter to meet their extended family and Samoa decherd and Hattie are implied to bus their mother out of prison. And Hobbs receives a call from his partner Locke, informing him that he had broken into a facility and discovered another virus worse than the snowflake virus. Hobbs also secretly has the London police set on decherd in retaliation for the mike ox small prank, which Hobbs told the police that decades name was huge Janus. Oh, man, this, this franchise is what it is. And as we seen it ends with family reunions all around. Yeah, the Shaw's family. It's just missing the corona. Like I say here. Where's the corona? Man? There's no, no, Rona. No. Um, and, you know, the thing is they have his partner log, they act like you know,

Anthony:

I guess. I guess I'm assuming that they had a virus that was going to kill half of the world. So I guess they were like, well, that's our Corona for this movie. So we really don't need the beer.

Michael:

This is before the rotavirus rounds are in here. So I don't know. Yeah. A thing was already in here. Yeah. So but you know, I doubt that Reynolds is in future Hobbs and Shaw movies, but it seems like they call him his partner. You know, like he's someone so it makes me wonder is the next one going to have him? Is he going to be just a little piece again? Just like I think

Anthony:

he'll be in it. I don't know how much but I'd see

Michael:

you back Yeah. I don't know if if rocks gonna do a Hobbs and Shaw movie. I know. He won't do a movie with Vin Diesel. Yeah. I think he's only signed on to do one more maybe is he or is this his last one?

Anthony:

I don't remember. There's no more Yeah, right. Now he's out.

Michael:

He's out who's out? Okay. Money Talks.

Anthony:

I see him being

Michael:

he says he's out.

Anthony:

Yeah, he said it we've had this

Michael:

I could see them doing that. I seem to another one of these Alright, so that it made money that is them. Good. Anybody made lots of money made everybody money. Yeah, but he made a piece of that because he's a big star You know, he gets they get percentage points and stuff. So what what do you want to do next? We're done with this. When do you want to our biggest bang buddy? biggest bang?

Anthony:

Yeah, what's your biggest bang Mr. Och small Go ahead. All right.

Michael:

The the finale like the run with like the, like all the hitches on the Samoan Island, like all the explosions and everything going off. I think that is the craziest scene. I mean, there's some others I find crazy, but that one seems just unrealistic. Even.

Anthony:

Yes, I agree with that. I'll give you one.

Michael:

All right, let me hit it for you.

Anthony:

That would have been mine too. Because it's the big What the fuck really seen. Um, but other than that, I will actually say the fight scene with Brixton at the end was pretty well done. Yeah, this you know, especially like the slow motion, you know, when they're finally working together, and actually getting some shots in gotcha. Let him get at one and the other one gets them like that was actually shot really well. So I'll say that was a pretty good fight scene, especially going against a fucking robot figured

Michael:

out. They figured out how to aggro with They go at him, he hits the one while the other one, it leaves them open to the hit from the other one. So they each had to take shots. They let the other one get a hit. And

Anthony:

yes, it's the whole like, you get to the final boss of the video game and you're trying to figure out how to actually beat him because you don't know what the hell you're doing at first and then you got to figure out Okay, wait, we're okay. Let me do this. Let me try this. What about this combination?

Michael:

You know, it's it's funny, because it's kind of the theme of this whole movie. It's like the Mick Jagger it's saying get their attention here while the other guy has Yeah, wine over there. It was a Mick Jagger him. Mick Jagger the whole fucking movie. Alright. Are we ready for a six pack?

Anthony:

Let's do it. Alright, me first. Are You? You? Okay? First? Anything Ryan Reynolds said in the movie. Like, that was just awesome. It was great. But especially at the end the phone call Oh my God. You sound exactly like your dad that this is freaking the Rockets on like, no, I need it really need to talk to your dad. That was just hilarious. But then all the shit he goes into. Can you believe that Game of Thrones ending? And like I like this is fucking great. So that's my Yeah,

Michael:

yeah, there's some. There's some facts about that. I'll get to in a little bit. All right. So you'll like that. Here we go. I got mine here. Vanessa Kirby has Hattie I like that character in this movie. Yeah, I think she was excellent. I think she was even better than the rock and Jason stay them in the movie in my opinion.

Anthony:

All right. She was good. She was good.

Michael:

Just how I feel. how I feel. Are you ready?

Anthony:

Ready. Mike, och small. I know. I just love that. Fuck you. I love that. That was just funny. I it's so stupid, but so funny. And then the TSA guy say his name.

Michael:

He's like, he's like my No, no, it's not small.

Unknown:

That was just great. They did a good job. No, it's not I probably did a good job with humor in this movie. I'll say that.

Michael:

Yeah, this is much better with the funnies than the other ones. Let me go to the next one. The Reluctant buddy cop nature The Reluctant buddies buddy cop nature of this movie. So they were a buddy cops, like, you know, doing their thing together. But they really were reluctant to be together. It was Yes, reminiscent of you know, 48 hours or Beverly Hills Cop or these movies where people have to team up that are strange bedfellows as they would say

Anthony:

exactly. strange bedfellows.

Michael:

That's that's, that's my memoir. Sorry. Are you ready? Yes. You want to touch What? Nothing

Anthony:

at all. Ever.

Michael:

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Are you ready? Ready.

Anthony:

My last one is something we didn't mention but The Italian Job reference i thought was cool. The Mini Cooper Yes. was over in Italy. Yes. So now we know Shaw is also

Michael:

Okay, so just wanna let you know in fact, that was my first fact I was gonna go over that for you I guess I will just skip it I'm not go over that one. Asshole. Alright, so here we go. And my last one is the fact they were able to use a family a family plotline so they this whole fucking franchise is about family and somehow they were able to up the ante a family in the spin off

Anthony:

yes three union the family reunion in prison was awesome.

Michael:

Yes. All of it all it

Anthony:

was all of it. Let's get out there. That was awesome.

Michael:

bake a cake bake a cake I can use Are you ready for your generic?

Anthony:

I sure am.

Michael:

Here you go.

Anthony:

All right. My first one is the overuse of brother.

Michael:

That's like a whole Cogan whatever call

Anthony:

each other brother like okay, maybe once but, yeah, too many times. It's just getting lame. That's all.

Michael:

Yeah, that is that is kind of lame. Paul Cogan use it all the time,

Anthony:

okay. It's like, okay, we're teaming. respect you. You're my brother. I'm gonna take care of you. But then it's like, say it wants to be done with it. Don't keep going back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. If anything if they were gonna do that. They could have made it a gag almost. And they're like, no, I care more about you. No, brother. No, brother. No, brother. They kept going with it. That actually would have been funny.

Michael:

Yeah, I guess you just like, you know, like, we are podcast brothers. No, we're not. So there we go. No, we're

Anthony:

not.

Michael:

Yeah, we are. No, we're

Anthony:

not brother. We're not

Michael:

Are you ready?

Anthony:

We're not even share and Josh, we're not even former step brothers.

Michael:

We're closer to brothers than then. Some people are kind of in a weird brother in law situation. Stop. So you are my brother. Stop talking here. My podcast brother. Are you ready? Yes. I think this movie is too much of a superhero movie at times just a little too much like, I would like there to be some humanity. Even in the bad guy. Like, it feels like they were always fighting. cybernetic perfection that can't be killed. In the end. They didn't even kill him. He he got decommissioned. There you go.

Anthony:

All right, I got one more.

Michael:

You got one more. Okay.

Anthony:

The other one with it being like a superhero movie. And Brixton is like he called himself black Superman. You know, he is robotic and can do so I like the whole fucking barrel, a monkey scene where they're hooked on to the helicopter. He's super human. When they first hooked the goddamn chain. Could he have just climbed on the copter and taken it off? Why couldn't he do?

Michael:

Yeah.

Anthony:

Why couldn't he do that? Why can't on hook that. sumbitch

Michael:

if he's black Superman, why can't he do that?

Anthony:

I don't know. I think he can. I don't know why he didn't. Then you guys are fine. You get away.

Michael:

That's crazy. I don't know he should. He's black Superman. He should have been all over that. That's all I know. I got one more generic. All right. I got one more generic. There is some cheesy dialogue in this at times. Just when I get sucked into the story, and I feel the movie is it's got me. They'll say something I can't really point at anything specific but they'll say something that it just pulls it back down. It feels like it pulls me out of it and it feels kind of cheesy. A lot of times it's by I mean there's been a couple by I know stay them said one or two things on the rocks at that site a couple things. Like it just didn't feel natural. It felt forced and a little cheesy sometimes with the dialog. I can see that are Yeah, yeah. So I'm not going to go over the Mini Cooper fact. Wonder why that? Some asel but I got some facts for you. screenwriter Chris Morgan said that Alliance spoken by decherd shot I had a before at ons assault in Samoa. There's things I've done that I have to make amends for was deliberately written in response to the viral internet fame campaign called justice for Han. The campaign alludes to him killing Han at the end of Fast and Furious six 2013 so they actually it's like an apology for killing Han in this movie. We're sorry guys. I'm Nick I just saw here's the fact that

Anthony:

they could apologize for the whole damn movie. Tokyo Drift

Michael:

that's not just the well he was only he did it he didn't do that. He did that in six. He didn't do it in three. So he can't apologize for that he wasn't there.

Anthony:

No I'm using they should have found a way to apologize for the whole fucking movie for Tokyo Drift they should have found a way to apologize for that.

Michael:

Yeah.

Anthony:

I don't care

Michael:

you know, some Boswell ended up pussy.

Anthony:

The fucking at the end at the end of seven where it just flashes up for Paul. This one could have just been sorry about tokyo drift. Okay, just flashed up there.

Michael:

Yeah, this one's good. A bit a little less fields but definitely understandable. So the fact I was telling you earlier, Dwayne Johnson stated that Keanu Reeves was in talks to play the director of terrorist organization at on if things had worked out. What we did at the end was we left the ominous voice faceless so for some time, it was going to be a bit of a john wick all disguise but then we left it there. With a few people in mind. Originally Kiana was the goal. We were talking and it just didn't feel right creatively. He and I talked and I totally got it and it wound up being the best thing. So now we leave that open for the future. So they don't know who's gonna be the right voice but I wish it was Keanu. You know, I mean, okay, now, Laurie. Hello, nice to eat to Asana who plays Dwayne Johnson's character's mother. Yep. is in fact six days younger than Dwayne Johnson. Oh, thank you that she's interesting. The same age. The Island of Hawaii, in Hawaii, doubled as Samoa. Okay, this this movie seems to ignore the fact that Hobbs was offered his DSS Back at the end of the previous movie, and turned it down as he, as he is once again a DSS agent in this movie, because remember he says I'm quitting.

Anthony:

Yeah, there's just some stuff you can't explain away I guess. There's like fuck it.

Michael:

During the London car chase as Britain's motors bike changes shape the slide under the oncoming truck. The iconic sound effect used during the transformation for is from transformers, the Transformers cartoons and movies

Anthony:

fucking clearly be heard as soon as I heard it, too when I was watching off.

Michael:

When Shar Hobbs and his family are trying to bring down the helicopter their cars start to dangle from referencing Fast and Furious six, where Dom's team is trying to bring down the Antonov plane. So we got we got a double Yeah, flight pull down situation. Okay, so those are the facts I had for you. Are you ready to rate this pitch?

Anthony:

I'm ready. Alright, so overall, I did enjoy this movie. As far as for what it is an action movie, part of the Fast and Furious franchise. There are actually some elements of it that I liked better than what we get out of the Fast and Furious franchise, some that are the same, and some not so much. The superhero aspect of it, kind of like weak sauce to me a little bit. But again, it's like trying to do more. And more and more every fucking time there was more ridiculous stunts and all of that. But overall, it was entertaining. What really saved the movie for me was Hobbs and Shaw, the back and forth between them. The added humor into the movie I thought really helped made it entertaining to when you can get the humor in those types of movies. I mean, I think that's a huge bonus. So overall, just them to back and forth. But then working together. I mean, like, I like the chemistry the two of them have on screen. As far as an action movie. It's good. Being able to shit talk against each other all the time. And we skipped over to one of my favorite fucking parts of the movie we never even mentioned what should have been my six pack boys basically on the plane, telling Shah how he's gonna fuck his sister. That was hysterical. Like, awesome. Um, so there was some really good things in this movie. Overall, it is what it is, though. It's another fucking Fast and Furious action movie. So, but I was entertained by it. So this one I will actually give 16 cans.

Michael:

Oh, all right. Oh, right. So that's above average. Yep. So there we go. All right. So so you like this better than seven?

Anthony:

member I seven pissed me off. I told you that.

Michael:

Oh, well, I know that that's why you like this, but it's okay. Seven. So. So I, here's my I like this movie. I think it's a good a good diversion from the series. There's no racing whatsoever, though. So like, we don't get any of that. Note, no Dom isms. Those are all missing. People actually wear sleeves even. And this movie. However, the rock is like the bacon of movies. He makes them all better. Like he says those a little. This is a good action movie, but not my favorite in the series. As we all know, I have to knock it for being too much of a superhero film. And some of the cheese factor that I was telling you earlier about some of the dialogue that brings me down. Because of this. I gave this movie 14 cans. So that gives us an average I gave it a normal score. By the way you notice I didn't put a 14.12 or anything. Good job. So our average score on that one's 15 is 15 cans. So it's good, but not like it's not Fast Five. Put that way. Definitely not like this in this series. So stand by me. No standard. Definitely not that shit. Fast Five you get well here's the thing I want to tell you though. You gave this movie a higher rating than Fast Five. Well,

Anthony:

here's the thing though. This fucking franchise has just done so much and gone up and down in so many different fucking ways. It just I'm on a roller coaster. That's just where I'm at and what I enjoyed about it. That's it.

Unknown:

I enjoyed why I enjoy it.

Anthony:

Like I said, Listen, I could rate them lower because of the fucking action in it and it's just so over the top and fucking ridiculous. But at the same time now I'm sitting here, you know, watching them all rewatching them and I'm like, well, this is there's some good stuff in there though. And I told you this one. The big part of this one that did it for me was Hobbs and Shaw though.

Michael:

Yeah. Okay. It was they were good. They're fun. That's why mine's not lower because of Yeah, that's, that's the quality. So tell them the things you need to tell them.

Anthony:

We love you all very much. I love you more than he does. Don't Don't just say no. Yeah, point that out. Thank you guys for listening. We appreciate it. hope that you enjoyed this episode and hope you will tell your friends and you can enjoy future episodes together. Maybe over a bowl of popcorn. Check us out. Go the website. Follow us on any social medias. Like Subscribe, leave comments, let us know any movies you'd like to do in order some merchandise. We do have fanny packs. Thank you very much.

Michael:

That's that's the thing he loves the most by the way people his fanny packs. You can put some things in if you get Yeah, he puts his drugs and paraphernalia in total. I think that's what he envisions for everyone. So and he puts that's it. Lunchables in his and wet wipes. Don't ask why don't wet wipes. What are you talking about?

Anthony:

We on Pillsbury. Are we done for me and my co host, Mr. Och small. We bid you a good day.

Michael:

Yes, Mr. Janus. You have a wonderful day as well. Ditto.