Mike and Anthony's Soda Pop Culture Club: Celebrating movies of the 80's, 90's and beyond

Clueless

August 16, 2021 Mike and Anthony
Mike and Anthony's Soda Pop Culture Club: Celebrating movies of the 80's, 90's and beyond
Clueless
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Think Mike and Anthony weren't gonna do a show on this movie? As If! In 1995, Amy Heckerling straight up brought the Valley to the masses in this "CHER"ished calssic. High school, cliques, social status projects, crazy hats, driver's Ed, and makeshift incest all come together in one of the most epic teen films ever. Ladies and Gentlemen, this...is...Clueless!

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Anthony:

But another you need a new body buddy cuz I'm not gonna be your body buddy. You need a new baby oil buddy cuz I'm not gonna be your baby oil buddy.

Michael:

You love the movies of the 80s and 90s? Did you enjoy the search for the perfect rental on the new release wall? Were you nervous about the late fees and forgetting to rewind? Then you are in the right place. Welcome to Mike and Anthony Soda Pop Culture Club me Mike along with my co host Antwan as if it's all I'm saying, as if as if, as if I'm going deep and with that, so bring our take on TV, movies and all pop culture from the 80s 90s and beyond. And if you want all things Soda Pop Culture Club, go to Soda Pop Culture Club calm. There, you can see our episode schedule, contact us and make movie suggestions. We also encourage you to become a subscriber or follow the podcast on whatever platform you may be on. And please share with your friends so they too, can revel in the movies of the past. Additionally, it would be super awesome. If you were to follow our Instagram at Mike and Anthony. Plus, don't forget to rate the show and leave us some comments because we like to feel good about ourselves or we like to be depressed based on what you tell us. Now, here's something we're doing. We're coming up on our anniversary. And we have a little contest going, don't we Anthony?

Anthony:

Don't Don't talk about anniversary. Anything I know are any anything related to doing anything with you and an anniversary? I don't like it. It's fucking depressing.

Michael:

So our relationship, which has been more than one year, but one year, in this podcast, we're running a contest, basically what we're doing is we're saying, Hey, we want to hear from you. We want you to give us some suggestions for some movies, and the best suggestions. We pick, we're gonna pick them and we're gonna send you a T shirt. And we're gonna do it for up to three people. So all we know, all we want you to do is send us some suggestions. And if we like him, we'll pick them. What do you think about that?

Anthony:

I think that's fucking sweet. I would do it. If I was already doing the podcast, I would so enter this shit.

Michael:

I would definitely I suggest it strongly. And you know, the other thing is, is if you have the ability to or want to, we might even let you be on that episode. If we can swing it make it happen, right? Because I know that Anthony wants someone else other than me to talk to you. I would love that. God help me. Yeah, yes. So so if you want to do this, just go to our website, Soda Pop Culture Club, calm on the first page. At the bottom. There's a place to give movie suggestions. Put your suggestion in there. Say it's for the contest. And additionally say why it makes why it's important to you Why? Why do you want to do us want us to do it? It could be just because you want to hear us talk about stupid shit. That's fine. We like to do that. Or if it means something to you. We'd like to know that too. So do you have anything else? You'd want to tell them their hands one? No, just enter the contest. Anybody that also in addition would like to send me some strong words of encouragement to continue doing this podcast with nipple twist here.

Anthony:

I will send you a fanny pack.

Michael:

Yes. Yeah, buddy. nipple twist. Oh, gosh. You know, you know how to you know to pull on my, I guess. I guess I was gonna say our strengths. Oh, yeah, you started with it. So let's get to what we're doing today. What are we doing, man? Come on, Tom.

Anthony:

We're doing 819 95 Classic, amazing fucking movie. One of the pinnacles of teen comedies to me when you thought she peaked with Fast Times at ridgemont High. Amy Heckerling comes storming back in the 90s with clueless

Michael:

peaked at Fast Times, man. That's cool. I love that movie. Why?

Anthony:

This one? I'm saying when you thought maybe she peaked because that was such a great movie. No, she, she had more in the tank.

Michael:

I know. I thought now my personal thing is I thought her next movie was her peak that she produced actually. And that was a night at the Roxbury but what do I know? Roxbury is classic? No, it has classic CS but not a good film.

Anthony:

It's a great. It's a great film.

Michael:

Oh, but I've just you know what, I'm going to tell people in the future we're going to do another one of our movies. Do you know which other movie we're going to be doing? That's we're going to be recording not too long from now.

Anthony:

Which one? There's so many in the hopper.

Michael:

Look Who's she does look who's Talking Oh, yes. And that's the one that's in the hot it's in our Hopper, we're going to do it. So that'll be like to have her movies we're going to do and probably eventually Fast Times at some point, you know, I think it is probably because it's you know, they're great for different reasons, in my opinion, they look at it to different generations. Well, but yeah, clueless kind of like you exactly like me. Right? Do you want to give a synopsis? Or do you just want to get right into our stuff that we do here?

Anthony:

Let's let's just do it. Because I mean, the synopsis? I don't know what even kind of synopsis you give about this movie. It's kind of like it is what it is. Yeah, it's share being clueless.

Michael:

And then how true that is, you're clueless. Find out that that's okay. So what I wanted, what I'm gonna do, is I'm gonna get you in to our Rotten Tomatoes, so you can do those guessing things again, let's do it. And which, which just a little inside baseball. We tried to do this one once, didn't we?

Anthony:

We did. And I will tell you though, and it will Yeah, here's the thing. We recorded this episode, like a couple months ago. And our awesome producer here somehow fucked it up and lost it.

Michael:

So so he might know all the answers to the questions I'm going to have but we'll

Anthony:

see. I don't remember shit. This was a couple months ago.

Michael:

Oh, Mr. Memory doesn't remember she Okay. Let me hit the thing. Let me hit the things. Here we go. So Mr. doesn't remember shit. What was the budget on this big time movie? God, I

Anthony:

really don't remember. I know. It wasn't huge, but let's see. 15 million.

Michael:

Yeah. You're a little over. It's 12. So you say 12

Anthony:

I'm thinking maybe I remember that. But I really don't. But I was almost gonna say 12 that's.

Michael:

That's a good early 90s budget. Yeah, cuz, you know, not none of them were real high. But that's high. It was high enough. But what do you think it made in the box office? So 12 million in the box? 66. You know, I think you do know, but you don't. It's 56.6 Okay, so I think you kind of knew, but you're like guessing. Yeah, kinda sorta. It's okay, man. You're you're allowed to forget things again. shows that you're human.

Anthony:

Hey, this proves I was not fucking cheating, though. I didn't look it up ahead, asshole.

Michael:

Just let everybody know. While he may forget that. If I start talking about a scene in the movie, he'll start doing all the lines. So yeah, remember, you just remember certain things. I remember the important thing was like the Crimson wave shit. We already did this in another one. You already did it. Right. And that's you went through all that.

Anthony:

That's why I don't remember it. Because that was an episode. So that was an hour of my life talking to you. So of course, I blocked that shit out immediately after. You know what, what

Michael:

I love about this, I just want everyone to know is that he talks about like, it's this hour of his life. And then I have to go back and listen to him and edit them. So it's more like two hours for me or more. So this guy needs to just check himself. That's all I'm saying. Um, go ahead. You have something saying? Well, it's

Anthony:

the hours talking to you. And then the hour and a half after to decompress and try to push it all out of my memory. And so, night terrors. So that's a lot of investors out there. That's extra time I have to spend to get over it just to be able to do the next episode with you. Okay, process.

Michael:

You're getting you the editing software, and then you can relive it again

Anthony:

dealing with Oh, this show would be done. I can't do it, man. I can't listen to this shit again.

Michael:

I can't I can't. So I'm so Rotten Tomatoes. Yes. What do you think the critics the critics thought of this? I'll give you the reviews after you tell me what the critics thought

Anthony:

they'd better have liked it. I mean, it's become such a it became such a cult phenomenon. Geez, I 74%

Michael:

you're a little off it's 82% and so if knowing that what they think about it what you think the audience thinks about it?

Anthony:

87

Michael:

You're wrong. It's lower at 76% critics much higher on this than the audience Damn your audience. Alright, so reviews. I have a positive one by Susan let her turn them in. I don't have to say it's low Shizuka IW lol Cz scz CZY and it will Chyna I don't know. We'll just call it a very complicated Horlicks Susie, Susie horn of USA Today. Said Silverstone glycolate guy Leslie glides through her roll like a pop Pam sprayed charge card. So she's a guilelessly guiding car charge card. That's pretty good. And fits the theme of the movie. And then Greg musca What's another name of a film critic? Calm? He says, what should have been a clever movie disguised as a shallow one? It is, in essence, a shallow movie disguised as a clever one. So there you go. Well,

Anthony:

let's dismiss that fucker. Why? Because he doesn't know what he's talking about is he's that's just been announced. I

Michael:

agree. All right, well, yeah, they're great. You're gonna be asked Are you do you want me to read first? Are you on this thing?

Anthony:

I mean, I'd prefer you just not say anything, because you're gonna give your opinions and I'm not gonna go ahead and read this. Alright, fine. Don't start off. Okay, share. Horwitz, played by Alicia Silverstone lives in Beverly Hills mansion with her wealthy father Mel, a lawyer who's so good that he gets paid $500 an hour to argue with people. She attends Bronson Alcott high school with her best friend Deon Davenport, who is also wealthy and beautiful. They were both named after singers who now do infomercials. Josh shares socially conscious ex stepbrother. We would also call him woke nowadays, visits during a break from college they spar continually, but playfully. She mocks his idealism while he teases her for being selfish, vain and superficial, saying that our only direction in life in life is toward the mall. After receiving a poor grade and one of her classes Cher decides to play matchmaker for too hard grading teachers at her school in order to loosen them up to negotiate better grades for her work in the system. Maybe after succeeding she realizes that she enjoys doing good deeds she then decides to give back to the community by adopting a tragically unhip, new girl. Ty Frazier There we go. Yes.

Michael:

There we go. Yeah, so shares a to me as a hot mess. I don't know. Maybe you like her? shares? Awesome. Whatever. It's

Anthony:

not hot mess. Um, it was just hot.

Michael:

I don't know. She's very I don't know. Like, I identify with Paul Rudd when I watched this movie, originally back then a lot more than I did with her. And I wasn't you know, I was just out of high school.

Anthony:

I mean, if you identified with Cher, I'd be a little worried.

Michael:

What you sound like you're down with with her socially backwards ways of being just a mall shopper Valley.

Anthony:

I think you're more like share now then because you're more of a shopaholic. So

Michael:

that's how Amazon is not the same as going to the mall. I think it is. I think it is.

Anthony:

I think you have turned you identify more with share. Now you'd like to pretend you identify with Paul Rudd. But you're more share now.

Michael:

I present male but my pronoun is she know. He likes to shop at the mall. That's me. Um, no, but they are. But yeah, she's a mess to me. But what I don't like about her thing is the computer closet. What do you think of the computer closet where it tells you if it's a match or not?

Anthony:

What I think about is it's just funny that not the computer closet the fucking computer itself.

Michael:

Oh, yeah, that's like

Anthony:

fucking Macintosh. I'm like, did they even have touchscreens back then? No, I think that was the thing. No, I

Michael:

don't think now You're right. I don't even think they did. But what gets me is that she's supposed to be this very fashion forward hip girl. And she picks an outfit that's a mismatch on her own damn computer tells her she made a mistake and then she has to go through and find the other outfit I found that to be more funny than anything.

Anthony:

No, you have to set it up to show what the program is actually doing that it actually is I guess it's it's high tech shit. That's like that's like hackers high tech.

Michael:

that's accurate. Oh half that's what was that was that computer that she had? What was that computer she had that they wanted to look at on her that I want to get their hands on. I don't know. Yeah. It's like I

Anthony:

said had like a 21.1 whatever. jigowatts CPS modem or something.

Michael:

Oh my gosh. Yeah, this is hackers Sq right? This is like, that's what she becomes she shaves her head and becomes a underground hacker later on with john. What they do. Yeah, now I I like your I like your name today on here because you talk about Jeep. Jeep and you Jeep in behind my jeep Jeep behind my back. Cuz I'm a big fan of Fes on yeah cuz of scrubs. Yes. And so anytime I see him anything it just makes me so happy because he's just got that. That vibe and I love that in this movie. He had that vibe. For sure. This was like his but I like

Anthony:

like his first Roll or this is his breakout one at least I think

Michael:

yeah it had to be because can't hardly wait was after that but he was just in the love mongers our burgers love burger love burger and love burger. He didn't really have a big bit speaking parts but not like, main part or anything like that. But yeah, that one I remember but yeah, take off the hat. It's might be I've never looked at his thing, but I really love him. I like his relationship with Deon share doesn't really like her dating a high school kid, which is kind of strange. I don't, it doesn't seem like she has relationships. So I don't understand how she gives advice on who people should be dating because it doesn't like she dates herself. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't seem like she's like, somebody that knows what to do because she's never doing it type of thing.

Anthony:

Well, she's clueless. But also I think it's because she's like, she's in a different stratosphere and the popularity chain. So it's really easy. Yes, her dating a high school guy. Now, she that's not good enough for her. What's good enough for her? is a college student who is also partly a relative. That's what she's holding out. Yeah.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah. I agree. She's got her standards a little whack as, as dude might say in the movie. But now, she gets she goes to what's his name? His class, the bald guy. What What is his name? Mr. Hall, the teacher that she wants to get fall in love. She goes to Mr. Hall's class. Yeah. And they have and he's making them do an argument. The debate he presents the whole? The Hadrian's arcadians

Anthony:

to come to America? Yes. And she gives the cookout

Michael:

but you know, if you Yeah, but if you listen to it, it actually is a good argument. The way she explains it. Right? Yeah, the analogy is perfect. You know, just have to rearrange some things.

Anthony:

And everybody's happy together, rearrange some things, but in the end, it's like the more the merrier.

Michael:

It's a great it's a great argument. But you know, she but the fact that but I think sometimes when somebody makes the mistake of not saying Haitians properly right away. It really just undercuts your argument. Just Oh man, but her teacher what gets me every time I see him. I just can't see anything other than the Princess Bride. What about you? I know inconceivable. I can't I can't watch this. And then and like in like, not think of that. It just it kills me every time I like I watched that. It's like, Oh, that's that guy. Yeah. I just want to talk about being a Sicilian. And try it out out with somebody. That's pretty much.

Anthony:

I mean, it's not just that he's been so much and he's done voice work and everything. So but it is No, I mean, the Princess Bride. It's like, that's like when I first watched saw, and Carrie always, isn't it? I'm like, whoa. Even though I know I've seen him. Thunder Days of Thunder and everything. But I'm like, Oh, man.

Michael:

A different animal. It is. But I'm like, I'm just I want him.

Anthony:

When they when the guy when a jigsaw is ordering him to do stuff when he's locked in the bathroom. I just wanted to say, as you wish, just waiting for that line. There's got to be a director's cut somewhere where there's a throwaway scene where he did it. There has to be

Michael:

or like a gag reel. Yeah, then. And then dude, let's look at the camera. Like Really? You're right. That would be funny. It would be cool. But yeah, this is the beginning of this is pretty good. You know, we get set up for a lot of things. I like the I like negotiating your grades. I mean, oh, yeah, that was fun. I would love to be able to negotiate my grades and my teachers. I never looked at it as a as a start of negotiation when they hand me my report card. I

Anthony:

know it's just the end.

Michael:

Here's Yeah, I was like, here's two DS and a see Mike live with it. See? Oh, wait a second. Now those could be sees that

Anthony:

to me, though, that that shows, shares? Maybe not that clueless. That's forward thinking. Because most students when they get their grades and they're not good. Your first thought of negotiation is with your parents. How much trouble Can I negotiate myself out of when they see my report card shares? Like No, I'm going back to the source here. I'm gonna negotiate with the teachers. I'm gonna fix this right where it starts.

Michael:

That's the daughter of a litigator. That's that's what it is someone who argues for a living that's that's that's the way he instilled in her. Like don't don't take the first answer. But you know, I know where to get the one new

Anthony:

one. She's kind of got a Legally Blonde thing going on.

Michael:

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. She does. She does. But Once she can't do that, and she has to figure out how to get these, she wants to figure out how to get them to together and get them to go out so that she can negotiate those grades. She called one of them old, didn't she? I forget, like there. Yeah. Said said do was old. He's 47 man. He's 47 and then she called that old. Well, that's old.

Unknown:

That's not old. Your old it's not fucking old. Your old. I'm not old. Your old

Michael:

No, go. Maybe a 90 maybe 94 or whatever this was or 95 that was old, I guess. But dead. Oh, that is not Oh, oh, yeah. Remember, we're gonna get it.

Anthony:

Do you remember wargames? When he's like, when he thought the professor died? He was like, he said he was like fucking 39 or something? Or 30 something. And she Alli she's like, wow, that's all that's really old. So that was even worse.

Michael:

Oh, fuck her. Fuck her then fuck her then you would have a ban. I mean, it's really shady. Come on. Oh, no. Oh, man. Um, the one of my favorite parts of this movie is the tardy speech by breckin Meyer. Yes, I'm aware he's there. He's listening. Did did the I don't remember him ever doing that in homeroom? I guess maybe it must be homeroom where he's saying you've been tardy. You've been tired that just for that class. I don't even know. But I love it that he's thanking all those people for taking a chance on a young boy.

Anthony:

My parents never get to LA City Bus driver for taking a chance on an unknown kid. And last but not least, those wonderful people. McDonald's. Getting up early. Make those little egg mcmuffins without which I might never be tardy.

Michael:

I love that. That is that is so great. That is so great. And then her responses you like you said before surfing the Crimson wave. Yes. For her. So she argued her way out. That was a negotiating point. Like everything with her. She got avatar. Oh, hey, there's Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's see. What else do we got going on here? So Ty? She wants to adopt ties basically what it comes down to?

Anthony:

Yes. But according Hi, isn't it interesting? toe up and their stock would plummet.

Michael:

So that's a phrase that you don't hear much anymore. You don't know. So? Yep. That is that is not a phrase you hear much anymore. But yeah, they their stock would plummet but I don't know did when you were in high school. Did you ever think that way? Like Did you think like, oh, if I go hang out with this person, I'm gonna lose stock.

Anthony:

Now. If in high school if I hung out with Thai Thai would have lost stock. Yeah, so yeah.

Michael:

Oh, you're saying the girls never. you saying you didn't have much luck with the league?

Anthony:

I know. I say I need somebody to adopt me. And wash the shit out of my tub and make me over. But that didn't happen.

Michael:

I'll make you over buddy. Oh, no. We're next time I'll watch your hair. I will rub baby oil on you and we'll go out

Anthony:

Why do you got it? Why? Every time why you make it so fucking What did I do? The same shit. You always weird. That's

Michael:

what? Two dude's rub people rub each other with baby oil all the time?

Anthony:

Yeah, that's just old hat or they do some? I'm sure they do. Kind of like, but that's not really you. Whatever you want to do. You need to find a lot another you need a new body buddy. So I'm not gonna be your body buddy. You need a new baby oil buddy. Cuz I'm not gonna be your baby oil buddy. And any other buddies you need a different one.

Michael:

Don't need different buddies. Um, so share tops tie didn't tie when they first started talking. seem like she wanted coke. We'd like like the first coke away man. Oh man. Words ranch it's like man that that so that what that made me think though is that where she's from? They had things it just wasn't that good. Like maybe she's getting like, bathtub like made drugs that aren't that good. You know? Why? Like the the good shit. Why? I don't know because the way she said Oh, you guys got coke here. I'm thinking maybe she had math or speed or something but didn't have like cocaine like the no she had lower quality drugs or she's No,

Anthony:

she wanted weed because she said she could use some herbal refreshment and they're clueless and they think it means tea. We don't have any tea or anything. But we have coke and they met the soda and she's like, oh, no shit. You got coke here. So nothing. It's like she said it that way because she was asking for weed first. Oh, yeah. Herbal refreshment. She met. Why? And then it's like, oh shit, you got coke.

Michael:

I know she wants to weed. I know she wants the weed. I was just saying after she her reaction to coke makes me think that she might have had other drugs and she's just surprised that she'd have access to it. They're like, like, maybe she's like she already Does weed we know that right? It's made me think that maybe she's like other things man he

Anthony:

might have experimented.

Michael:

It's past she might have she might have. So is there anything we missed in that? And that section? Cuz we're gonna move on I don't think. No, I think we're good. Although I will say this. Yeah, go ahead. You go ahead. I'll let you say the well the one thing I'll say. Like I said shares not one of my favorite people, and she tries to remake everyone in her own image. And I think she did that with Ms. Geist as well. Like just whatever she thought was she's doing it Wait, she thinks they should look. not finding them their own self, I guess. Best way of saying, right, that's the one thing I don't like about her in her own. There you go. Do you have something else?

Anthony:

Now? Did we have any move? Yeah. Did we skip past where are we getting to that where she? She meets Travis.

Michael:

Oh, yeah, that's that we're gonna we're gonna get to that they bond. Yeah, we'll get that Martian. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you Yeah, you can talk about that. Give me a second. Share and Dion give Ty a makeover, which provides Ty with confidence and a sense of style. Share tries to extinguish the attraction between Thai and Travis Birkenstock and Amiel but amicable but clumsy slacker and to steer her towards Elton, a handsome and popular student. However, Elton has no interest in Thai and instead tries to make out in his car with Cher, who rebuffs him. So there you go. Yeah. Was that assault? Your Travis? ham on share?

Anthony:

Yeah. In the car. Well, yeah, Elton. Okay. I Yeah, I agree.

Michael:

Yeah. Yeah. He's an assaulter. I just because there's a whole list of things. I wanted to go over here. And that's one of them. he's a he's a dick. Yeah, he's the biggest dick but Travis and ty. But you were talking about right before we got to Travis and Ty to me are were a natural pair right there. Oh, yeah. They're into the same shit.

Anthony:

Travis and ty. That's a couple goals right there. That's what you call couple goals? Yeah. Yeah, sure.

Michael:

Yeah. That to me, that's what you want. You want someone that speaks to you so much, you just know you should be with them. Right. That's just how it is. And if they just would have been fine. I think so they probably smoked a lot more we'd ended up I don't think he would have because later on the movie, spoiler alert, he gets off the weed and guys gets more clear. So he can be a better skater. My guess is if they would have just become fast friends. It just got high. Yeah, they would have dropped out in like a month. So inadvertently, Cher's plan worked, but not for the reason she thought. I find it very interesting that they say it speaks highly of her that she hangs out with Sharon Dion like, like, because she's with them that elevates her to someplace that she wouldn't normally be. Well, that's really hate that type of thinking. Well, I don't believe in social rankings

Anthony:

while they are there, whether you believe in them or not.

Michael:

Okay, whatever. I mean, I don't think so. I Well, it's because you were on anyway, as you get to become an adult. That's why you didn't believe I'm an adult social ranking.

Anthony:

Yeah. As an adult. Yes. But in high school. Yeah. So you had them just because you didn't get on one. And you were like below ground zero. Don't be saying there's no such thing because they were there.

Michael:

They were and I was not zero. Okay.

Anthony:

I know I was going for negative numbers. I said you were not zero. Negative 12.

Michael:

So you're you're a number. minus. Yeah, yeah. I'm just a number man. Just a shitty number. Now, don't you think it's strange? That they have a random photoshoot? Like, the random like weird ass like, friends or not friends? Uh, well, it's 90210 style photo shoot. You

Anthony:

know what, though? Yes, and no. No, I think I think is weird about is because they are using a camera, which you would not do today. But when you really think about it, every social gathering is a fucking photo shoot anymore. Everybody's got to take selfies and group photo Now. Now. Yes, that was just kind of like a precursor. But yes, I mean, that's what everybody does now. So now I look back now. It's not weird. Now at the time it was it is kind of lame, like, oh, let's gather around the fountain or whatever. And just take some pictures of each other. Yeah, to make our own yearbook.

Michael:

I mean, obviously, I think Sherif devised it in order to get Elton to sit with ty. And then Ty's. Like, I want a copy of that picture. Like what kind of weirdo

Anthony:

Yeah, that's just because she took the picture like, what the hell? That is one scene and like one part of the movie I'm like, What the fuck? Why? Just cuz she took it. She took another girl with you. You know that she's trying to set you up with like, Okay my turn take the camera, get some pictures of share and then get a copy of that.

Michael:

Say share, can you get into the fountain now can you take your top off and pull your head up and let the hair whip back on your back as like a you know, got goals. I got goals. That's what I'd be doing. They do go to the valley. So you know, you know what happens in the valley? in the valley? Yeah, lots of in the valley. aside, do you know Kid Rock had a problem kind of racist album called Griff sandwiches for breakfast? years ago. Do you know the album? Yes. Do you know I'm talking about? Yes. Do you know what song is in there?

Anthony:

I know. I know about Kid Rock since when he was on ICP albums. Okay. I bet you did. Oh, that's a buddy.

Michael:

I bet you didn't rise up here, right. Hey, are you surprised I even know about grits sandwiches for breakfast. So you do but you know what song? I'm thinking of one which one? Maybe not? Which yodeling in the valley? Oh, yes. I do know that. He is such a such a bad album. I don't understand why I listened to it. Anyways. So that was getting Tuesday or going to the valley to a party? Yeah. Um, and isn't it strange that they're using a fucking map? Now that when we go do something we don't use a map anymore?

Anthony:

Yeah, but back then you did? I had a road Atlas in my car.

Michael:

Yeah, you did. But yeah, you know, I was trying to think about how did you get around? Like when someone said, Hey, we just go to this party at this house? Here. I mean, did you ask for directions to get good enough directions. Or if you had to find it on your own? That's hard shit to do

Anthony:

it is but I'm gonna tell you right now. My wife used to make so much fucking fun of me. Because back when MapQuest came out. Anytime I had to go anywhere, I would print up the MapQuest directions, and use those. Oh, that's, that's a good thing to do. I used to do it, but then I did it for like too long, like after, like, it's like how she would make fun of me for always using ease, I would pay all my bills at Rite Aid by cheque when you could do it online. And I just, I just had moron, I just have evolved to that point yet. dipshit does the same thing. I probably could have done it on my phone. But I prayed direction because I was paranoid. When something happens, what if my phone shut down or something? I need that paper copy of directions in front of me.

Michael:

Here's what I'm gonna say. Everybody has just now learned that you are not an evolved human being. And that's why you're so emotionally. adolescent, like you're you're really, you really aren't grown as much as I am. And when I see it,

Anthony:

I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm not an evolved human being. Which is why I'm able to do this show with you. That's the only reason. If I was evolved, this would not be happening at all. Okay. Okay. Now, you would be slapping your dick in the basement during this time instead of doing the podcast because you wouldn't have a co host. Because I would be evolved. And I will be doing something else.

Michael:

This is very passive aggressive. I'm feeling some very passive aggressive tension here.

Anthony:

I don't understand what why it's. I'm saying if I was a better person, I would be doing the fucking show. How's that? passive aggressive?

Unknown:

passive aggressive. I'm not involved. So I'm stuck here doing this shit with you. That's what it is. I can lay it out.

Michael:

I'm hearing we're both shitty. That's all I'm hearing is you

Anthony:

know, see Oh, that's that's passive aggressive. You come back at that?

Michael:

Yeah, the part the part where you're calling me shit, because that's why

Anthony:

you're with me. This is what I'm hearing. Yes, I know. Anyway,

Michael:

so you so you got to come over again at some point. And when you do, are we going to play this party game? We're going to try it. It's called suck and blow. We're not gonna do that. No, no, it's Are you gonna do you're gonna do the sock or the blow?

Anthony:

I'm not ever gonna play a game called that with you. And I don't feel like you would use a credit card to play the game. Like, oops. Drop the credit card. I

Michael:

would use $1 Bill $1 bill. Yeah. I want you to have a reason. But no, I think it's a stupid game anyways, and, and there's a fact about that. It's actually was a movie trick. You can't really play the game. It's I believe. So yeah, that was all. That was all not a thing. It's an excuse for a guy to sexually assaulted a girl. It is. Yeah, even though it was another girl that brought up the idea to play. Yeah, well, you know, maybe she wanted to suck and blow but not at all um, maybe and it comes peer pressure. Yeah, yeah, then everybody. Now, another thing happened at this party that really scares me every time I see it is Murray getting his head shaved by some dude with in the bathroom with like a straight razor some shit. Well, I mean, what if someone accidentally came in and knocked him and hit them? You can really you know, you're not you're not in a safe space to where it shit couldn't happen and you could get sliced in your head. That's what I'm saying. People do at parties. That's just a fact. Yeah, but yeah, they do. But that's why I'm saying you beggar drunk people and you've got a razor on your head. There you go. That's not a good pairing.

Anthony:

I'm not saying it is. But he's keeping it real. He's keeping it real cuz he's keeping it real. Yeah.

Michael:

No, no. Yeah. That that relationship is strange anyways, yeah, like him better bald is a good look.

Anthony:

It is on him. For sure.

Michael:

Yeah, that's the way he's been forever. I don't know maybe that he loses hair. I wonder what's he losing hair early as a as an adult? Is that why he does that? Or I don't know. He just always go bald. I wonder. I never know what those people like. You can tell sometimes if you can. Yeah, you can sometimes you can see their gristle Yeah, not black people. That's your tickets. I was like, but the the ball might clarify your state but thank you. People who are bald if it's shaven, so well and it's waxed and shiny. You can't see but then there's some guys you can see the gristle and you can see that they have the male pattern baldness Yes. But you just some some guys you don't know when especially when they're younger is hanging out hang out with them. Yeah, you can

Anthony:

wait till five o'clock rolls around and see kind of shadow there as

Michael:

you know what I'll do. I'll find someone I want to know what's happening on their head and I'll just I'll roofie them and then I'll put them in a box and and watch and just have their head sticking out of the box for a week and see what happens.

Anthony:

Jesus Christ. Okay. So you want to go like human centipede on their ass and make them a chia pet. basic human chia pet. Yeah, he's just gonna be you're gonna be sitting there with bag Doritos just staring at them. They come to like what happened? I'm just doing an experiment. I'll let you go in a week.

Michael:

Just doing a thing. Cool right now. Okay, let's see what happens. Oh, so in this section though, I just want to say a couple things that I have. Beside from my weirdness shared to me is the ultimate clock cock blocker. On Travis. She's really just the ultimate cock blocker. The worst? I hate her. But it gives us one of the best scenes in the movie. Because it frees up time to have her I don't know what you would call it. With Elton. Like the with the roll on with the homies thing like their song they share Yeah, for like two seconds. Right? Like, like that whole scam is what I call it you know you ever watch your watch say anything? Where they where they said his date with what's your day was a scam? Because they just sat in the mall together for a moment. Yeah, that's kind of what this feels like that I just sat in the mall with you for five minutes. And that's a date. It's like crazy. And our basis for a whole relationship to the date though. fucking weird about it, then count is a date. But she candidate as a relationship though, you know, I mean, like they she felt hurt later on in a movie because,

Anthony:

well, she never counted his relation. Really. He just thought he liked her. That's all because then she's crying. Like if I'm too good for Really? How come? I'm not with him?

Michael:

Which once again, is not her fault. That share manipulated her feelings that way just once it's not. I know, shared that to her shared it that to her. That's all I'm saying. But you know, we get the rolling with the homeys which if that's probably the one thing that everybody does from this, we roll in with the homies, you know? Yep, sipping yakko song that was right, Julio. is right. And then we eventually we get another great movie with his song. What is it?

Anthony:

Eventually? Was Dangerous Minds after that. Yeah, I believe so. Are you sure?

Michael:

Because I didn't know of Coolio when this came out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure all you want to look now don't you? Um, you don't trust me?

Anthony:

I never trust you.

Michael:

You don't trust me. Oh, let's see. Oh, there it is.

Anthony:

Actually, they were both 95 but which one came out for I see dangerous mind came up first. Cuz you knew Coolio? Then?

Michael:

In August? Yeah, August. So let's see. When did this will come out in July. Boom. And then. And that song was not what propelled him to fame rolling with the homeys it was the next one.

Anthony:

So there you go. What propelled him to fame was Fantastic Voyage. That was Yeah,

Michael:

well, no doubt. Yeah.

Anthony:

So that's why you knew about Coolio, then fair. antastic slide slides

Michael:

slip into slide. Yeah, yeah, yeah. loving it. Dangerous Minds great movie. Yeah, we may do that because it has Michelle Pfeiffer and lead. Here we go okay. Now what do you love about them out there in the car is trying to say well, you need to get we're gonna go this route so you need her with you so we can go this way and then have agency

Anthony:

Yes. But here No, you take the new taker. No you take her. I'm above Olympic. Like, okay. This is where Uber would come in really handy.

Michael:

Yeah, just just get on your Uber and go to go, you know, that's how we've improved as a society is that now the girl can go fuck all y'all. I'm getting this Uber and I'm going home.

Anthony:

Right. Now Elton's trying to share in his car, so he can share some things with her.

Michael:

That's That's right. So if we had Uber, we wouldn't have the sexual assault.

Anthony:

Right? Not necessarily, because that happens in your resume. Yeah, you don't know that.

Michael:

But not as but not, but not by someone you know, is pursuing you like that, like, you know, it would be very random and it's not something you could predict based on the person you're with behavior. Elton is a douchebag. And so we just don't know. But then, but the thing is, he tried to sexually assault her. She says let me out. She gets out and then just to make the funny fun movie even more fun for her. She gets robbed. That's like the fucking best. That was quite sad. It is. She just cries. It's sad.

Anthony:

I first made my dress, which was like the thing she was probably Yeah, upset about. And like,

Michael:

yeah, just gave everything else.

Anthony:

I don't think she ruined the dress. She laid down on the ground for what counts? 100 and she shouted to like yaks and got up. I don't think that ruined her dress. Yeah, it's not like she laid down and across the parking lot in it. Yeah.

Michael:

Now after that, she gets Josh Josh, his date was a beyotch. If he asked me she's kind of pretentious. Like her.

Anthony:

Yeah, that's like, I'm assuming she was like his college phase type. You know? Yeah. But the person

Michael:

like you said earlier, he ends up dating, share. How does he go from that to share? Isn't there an in between somewhere?

Anthony:

Or remember, share? Like, she gets woke more towards the end of the movie? woke. I don't know. is awakened. If you think about it between the two. The non attractive girl or your sister, which was going for? Oh, that's tough. Depends

Michael:

on what state I'm from. But it does. Alright. So. Yeah, that's going out with the sister. Anyways, this is another virgin obsessed movie, because they're eating at that restaurant and they talked about being high mentally challenged. Yes with the breadsticks. Why didn't did we get so obsessed with this back then? Why were we so obsessed with you know, I want to die virgin. I'm a virgin and blah, blah, blah. It's like, come on, man. That's fine to the world. No,

Anthony:

that's what that conversation was even about.

Michael:

I can't hear you. Hold on second. Can you say something?

Anthony:

Something?

Michael:

Oh, I accidentally hit the mute button on. What did you say though? Can you repeat that to me? You're fucking you're clueless. Okay, thank you. I said it's no, it's not anyway,

Anthony:

hold on. No, you're wrong. First of all, it's not virgin obsessed. They're not like, talking about how, oh, I don't want to be a virgin. They're just saying share saying she's not interested in doing it until with the wrong person. Yeah, I just don't know. There's there's they're not virgin obsessed with it's just a conversation they're having at the mall. At the food court.

Michael:

I don't know that. Like, I don't like the term wrong person. I mean, yeah, there could be a bad decision, but you never know what's wrong or right. In the end. I think you would be the wrong person. Right. But I don't know about any many other people you

Anthony:

think fucking get to know him later, is what you're saying.

Michael:

I know, I'm saying that. If you know him well enough. And they're nice enough people and you're just feeling it at the moment. It's not a bad decision. I mean, if you're looking for if you're looking for fireworks and rainbows and unicorns to fly out, and say it's time that's dead, that's never gonna happen. So my point is, is don't think that you're waiting for some monumentous thing to happen. Because guys are gonna let you down your whole life if that's what you're thinking of.

Anthony:

So you're saying just suck it up and nail somebody in high school. That's pretty much what you're saying.

Michael:

Hey, Or a nice enough guy? Yeah. Wow a nice nice goal. I mean, you know, whatever. But I'm just saying that guys are gonna let you down continually don't don't don't wait around for one you think won't because he's still will to event yeah ha her brother like this she ends up with her brother. Yeah he's gonna let her down to now yeah her stepbrother by the way

Anthony:

now he won't because he doesn't want you to think he doesn't want get cut off from dad.

Michael:

Oh yeah, he wants that. He wants that cushy corporate lawyer job. Alright, so, the other thing is, is tying Elton's phone man foments you know her whole like, you know what she's talking about? Is your song play when they're sitting down there? Yeah, get started song. I just like I told you overblown, overblown, but that's part of the movie. I guess. It's the absurdity of it.

Anthony:

That's the point. Yeah, to me back then when I watched it, oh, you're stupid. And then she starts slamming her head on the table. That's a good one.

Michael:

That is good. So you're trying to read so read this next part.

Anthony:

Mike is a dipshit with a very small penis out those are my notes. I'm sorry, hold on. Okay, here a fashion fashion concert. on mute again fashion conscious new student named Christian attracts Cher's attention at school and becomes her target boyfriend. When he comes over to watch some movies at her home including Some Like It Hot and sporadic kiss. She tries to seduce him, but he deflects her advances. Marie subsequently explains to Sharon Dionne the Christian is gay, and actually explains it as saying he's a cake boy. He's a disco dance and Oscar Meyer, friend of Dorothy's. Despite failure of her romantic overtures, she remains friends with Christian primarily due to her admiration of his good taste in art and fashion, because he's a great shopping, buddy.

Michael:

Oh, yeah. I mean, my first note on this guy is anybody who does the things he does dress drives a 50s car acts like he's from the 1950s where his 50s clothes and all that shit, they're a little off anyways, they're not. I mean, there's liking something, and then there's being weird. You're just into a certain era. What's wrong with that? I don't know. And here's the thing we were just talking about, you know, just suck it up and do it with some guy. She's trying to do it with this guy. I mean, and this guy's not. This is your sunshine and rainbows and unicorns flying by Guy. Come on, man. This guy's a tool isn't fucking Black and Decker. How's he at? All? I understand is he's like, he's like a caricature of a person. He's not. Like, he's he's a he's a carbon copy of an era and doesn't seem real. Like, you know,

Anthony:

but here's the thing. Do you remember the beginning of the movie? When Cher is? Yeah, going over and explaining all the different groups to tie. They're all carbon copies of each other. So what's your point? Just because he's a different time. He's weird, because he's not flocking with another group. That's all we're BMW hats, or the group of skateboard punks with baggy clothes. Or the local ladies sitting on the grassy knoll getting high. So just because he's not lumped in with one of those. He's weird.

Michael:

No, he's fucking weird. Now Fuck you. It's weird cuz he's fucking weird. Come on, man. Come on. And he does. He's off a little he's off a little. I mean, this is the person that she says oh, I want you know something more. And it's this guy. Come on. That's it's like, you know, that reminds me of Do you remember? Do you know the movie down to you? Yes, Freddie. Prinze? Jr. Yes. Julia style. And do you remember when Julia Stiles is at that party and he she meets Jim Morrison. Yeah, he's that fucking Jim Morrison guy you think sounds a caricature of something else. But in the end is probably just a douche. And he's also gay. So he's not even really into her. Sorry. So he's the Jim Morrison of this movie. It's fucking weird. That's what he is. Okay. I know. I whatever. Yeah, whenever she tries to sell herself sexually to him. This is the person who gets it for her. I love her father when they go out on the date. I got a 45 and a shovel.

Anthony:

I doubt anybody would miss you. Yeah, probably not that weird ask you drink. No, thanks. I'm cool. Not ask I'm not offering him asking if you drink Oh, protected by man. It's vague. I dig I dig what is that a drug use plan. Calvin Klein mighty mighty bosstones

Michael:

Yeah, and you know some of that was very big than was the hype guy you know the guy that doesn't play an instrument but just jumps around and like just does like what he does gets the crowd going. Yeah. I missed those days when we had those weird ass fuckers on stage just jumping. Get I love all those weird groups. Oh, man. Yeah. Now when they were at the but when they had that party, you see I picked up right away even back then, once he the way he leaned in on that bartender was talking to him. I knew that he was gay. Like, you could just tell he had a vibe. Like I'm interested in this guy. And, you know, that's just you can just see the difference from a distance. I don't know about you.

Anthony:

They're charging for brewskis

Michael:

Oh, yeah. What did he say? You know all the lines. Although he stayed there the whole fucking night.

Anthony:

That's right yet this they're charging for brewskis. Kashmir fan, I'll pay you back.

Michael:

Such Yeah, and then you're giving money to your date. This is the guy she wants to nail later on. Come on, man. Come on. Like your back. Maybe he can because in order to keep up his 1950s vintage wardrobe. I'm sure you have to spend some money.

Anthony:

Yeah, he's got money. His clothes in his car show that he has money.

Michael:

Now I do like earlier. I didn't say it. But I love Radiohead being in this movie, and we got more Radiohead in the club again, so I'm just a fan of anytime I hear Radiohead. It's too bad that this movie has that in there, because I'm not as much a fan of the movie as I am Radiohead. So there's that. That's why this movie gets a decent rating for me at all.

Anthony:

Okay, because a Radiohead Oh, geez.

Michael:

Oh, um, I like the her when she has Christian coming over for that date you're talking about he has the always have something baking. And that's it. Yeah, it was a very sexist thing. Like, it seemed weird. Like, what do you think? Like, like, She's like, always has some bagels that because yeah, female like I don't get like why you would say that? Yeah,

Anthony:

it's funny. Because if you've I'm sure you've seen like, people have posted online on Facebook and shit. That that article from whatever. I don't know what magazine it came from, from like the 50s the things a wife should do to prepare for her husband coming home. Man, that's fucked up. Oh, wow. Now have a drink. Yeah, you haven't seen that? I've seen it all over the place. Have a drink? I never look at this shit. Have the kids like give him time to decompress. You know? Have the kids like out in the other room or, like all this crazy shit, you know, dress appropriately for when he gets home. Welcome him and blah, blah, blah, my Wow. See, as a guy kind of goes a long lines with that. trade. What?

Michael:

Well, I mean, I think you should have the kid. kids doing something else. When your wife gets home. I'm gonna have a margarita ready on the rocks. And then you should be in a nice little outfit. Like, alright, maybe some hot maybe some tight shorts and a midriff.

Anthony:

I'll do it. And an apron and flip flops. Or how about Yeah, apron and nothing else.

Michael:

I'm just saying. I want to know if you can pull that off. Oh, yeah. Interesting. I'd

Anthony:

like to see that. I know. You'd like to see I'd like pictures. You're fantasizing about it right now. I can tell.

Michael:

Now, I will say there's no way there's no way in this world that dude is straight. We know this because or by because I mean her event because he won't accept her advances at all.

Anthony:

Or any way. He kept pushing girls away.

Michael:

Yeah. Which he stayed till the end of that club. I just want to say D stayed till the bitter end. He's like one of those people. He just want to dance.

Anthony:

He won't know he was going to the after hours then too.

Michael:

Oh, yeah. Well, we who knows what he did in the after hours, he probably did get busy in the after hours. Just not with her. Yeah. But now but when they do the sporadic viewing. He doesn't he doesn't give a she like, she gives him the full tilt. And still nothing doesn't doesn't do it. You know? All that. And the thing is, yeah, it My problem is is he led her on, though, don't you think he did? Like he didn't ever say, you know, he made it seem like this was a date. He never said Oh, but I'm gay. Do you think that's a product of the 90s and not outing yourself? Or do you think that's Yeah, I think him just trying to do you think it is a product to the 90s? Yeah. I guess the 90s. I mean, that's what? Well, it's more the 1980s 90s like before a certain time now we wouldn't have that in a movie. It wouldn't be that way. Oh, I'd be way more open.

Anthony:

I don't know about that. Because I think there's a lot of people that still aren't comfortable being open about it. So

Michael:

there are some that are but I think there's a lot more people that are so i think i agree with that. I would try it in order to make people feel comfortable in order to make people feel more comfortable being out they would have people being more out. And I

Anthony:

agree with that. Just saying that it's still a lot of people. Yeah, I think unfortunately feel that way.

Michael:

Yeah, I would agree. It's a It's a strange, it's a strange thing. Now they'd have them swap and pronouns and all kinds of things. So why is the freeway so scary?

Anthony:

What do you mean? Why it's the fucking freeway? And you don't have a license yet? You're just learning. I'm not that scary when Whatever, man, shut up. Listen. You're the asshole driver. So no, it's not scary to you. Because you're the reason people do get scared to get on the freeway.

Michael:

Not an asshole driver. Driver.

Anthony:

You're a fucking asshole driver.

Michael:

I can be I can. I will say that you are if someone in front of me is being stupid, I will. I will let them know.

Anthony:

So like, if somebody's in front of us being stupid, like only going seven over the speed limit, then you're going to let them know.

Michael:

No way under if they're going speed limit, I'll never fault them at that.

Anthony:

Holy shit. You whatever. Anyway. Oh, what all right anyway, I'm gonna go on to the next. Wait, what's your What was your Ren and Stimpy? Nope, I don't think that's till later. Oh,

Michael:

I think that's when she was sitting with Josh. Yes. And she's like, yeah, they're way existential. I was good. I thought they were quality. They're like,

Anthony:

no Ren and Stimpy is awesome. And I have a story about that. That's why I wanted to ask you about that. Oh, go ahead. I didn't tell you this. But uh, so I just went to my friend's 50th birthday party.

Unknown:

They tell you about this. Does this the neighbor Yes. You didn't tell me about it, but I'm guessing that it has to be any other friend.

Anthony:

Right? Exactly. But um, so and I don't I don't want to say their name just because I don't know if you know, that's prepared or not. How cool they are throw their name out on a podcast, but no, is awesome. I got to so he he works on a cartoon on cartoons, but he is friends with Bob camp, the creator of Ren and Stimpy co signed drawings and shit of Ren and Stimpy but he also had which I know what was fucking sweet as I got to see he has two binders of storyboards from two episodes of the original storyboards. It was badass. Oh, wow was in the army and the other was powdered toast man. I was like, holy shit.

Michael:

That's funny. So I was like, that is pretty cool. That is cool.

Anthony:

Fucking sweet. I was like, oh my god. Like that jam

Michael:

weird connection to the movie was a weird connection. Yes. And it's so existential. Yeah, it's way existential. But you know, read stamper when it's Ren and Stimpy is kind of like back then was like, Rick and Morty is today in popularity. So that's kind of Yes. Was that and Beavis and Butthead? Ren and Stimpy Those were the cartoons everybody watch. Alright, so I'm gonna go on to the next thing. Are you ready? I'm ready. Shares privilege life takes a negative term when Ty's newfound popularity strains that relationship, shares frustration escalates after she fails her driving test, and cannot change the result when she returns home. In a depressed mood. Ty confesses her feelings for Joss, Joss a Josh and asks share for help in pursuing him. Share says that Ty is not right for Josh leading to a quarrel which results in Thai calling share a virgin who can't drive feeling totally clueless share reflects on her priorities and her repeated failures to understand or appreciate the people in her life. Yes. Because the way harsh so what happens during this? Yeah, it says way harsh man. But during this is when we see the near death experience, which is really a fucking joke. In my opinion. I mean, the guys did assaulter by putting her hands on her, but I didn't think that she was ever in danger of dying.

Anthony:

You know what I mean? They could have slipped and dropped her. I mean, she was she was hanging off of the balcony. She falls. She's dead. Yeah,

Michael:

she falls. She's probably like a cat. She probably writes her worst self and gets on her feet. Maybe because we did see her take a nasty tumble down some steps at the party. Yeah, so we did. She fell and was just fine.

Anthony:

So yeah, you know, that's a broken back for me.

Michael:

I yeah. I mean, and it gets to the point which which, you know, she does her near death experience. And then she goes to school and she's telling all the stories. And she blows off Travis, which I thought was interesting that Cher even thought it was cruel when she blew off Travis. This this time because even she wasn't wanting her to get with him. But now it's like she sees it for as an outsider rather than an insider. Yeah. And it's changed your perspective. A little bit, you know, starting to come around. Yeah. Yeah. I have here that I don't speak Mexican. Yeah, that was bad was so racist. Yes. That was bad in this movie that was like, but I think that's what he pointed out to her. She's not Mexican. She's with Ecuadorian from El Salvador. It's an entirely different El Salvador. Also.

Anthony:

He's like, a sunset.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah, that's true. And her driving test. While she failed, she's a piece of shit driver. That instructor was an asshat he was unprofessional my opinion. He was a dick.

Anthony:

Why do you think so?

Michael:

just he just treated her like shit. He wasn't didn't treat her with courtesy. I mean, somebody Nick, she hit a car and almost killed somebody on a bike. He, he did that before they even started. Like he was a dick.

Anthony:

That he was just saying, what to do next. switch lanes here. You know, he's just being a driver's instructor. He didn't start freaking out until she almost hit the guy on the bike. And then she sideswiped another car. Shed leaving no, okay, after that

Michael:

being a little angry is okay. But he also called her a clueless something like he called her names. That was not appropriate. That's unprofessional.

Anthony:

I don't remember I'm calling her names.

Michael:

He said something to her. I can't remember the exact thing but he said, because I'm horrible. You know it, remember? Oh, he said something. You're just that that.

Anthony:

Now he didn't go ahead. She She he had her pullover. And she said, you're gonna take me somewhere to make left hand turns, practice parallel parking. He said, We're going back to the DMV the test is she's like it's over. It's over. And then he just said, went down. What happened? The only name he called himself with he called a bay with himself. He said, girlie as far as you're concerned on the Messiah of the DMV,

Michael:

girlie, that's Oh, really? Okay. He didn't call it has a name share. As far as you're concerned. I am the person who's made and calling himself the Messiah like his unprofessional. That's all I'm saying. unprofessional.

Anthony:

He's saying I'm the Messiah of the DMV. Because there's nobody else you can talk to after what you just did during your driver's test that's going to make this change. You're reading into it wrong.

Michael:

Realize I don't like you realize I don't like share. So

Anthony:

I do and you're making a point to your twisting shit, though.

Michael:

No, I just don't like the way he is to her. Oh, boy. I mean, I get you know, I get those things now. But either way we can agree to disagree on that, you dumb ass. But, idiot. That's passive aggressive. That's passive aggressive. But what's your name? Ty coming to your house and getting over Elton and burning the shit from there. Yes. What do you call that scam of a relationship? tapes and all that stuff. As I said she thinks she had a relationship. or foe Manse is what I called it on her hands. Like that's so hard to get over. But it really pissed off a share when she went for Josh. I guess she should have known that Sue she's into because that really made her angry. A virgin who can't drive. But can Thai drive

Anthony:

that didn't make her it made her angry that she's just basically saying that Thai is not good enough for Josh. Even though she's saying I don't think you mesh well together. That's what made her angry. She's like, you're basically putting me down. Like, that's why she's angry.

Michael:

Oh, okay. But you know, so Thai culture a virgin who can't drive we don't observe life very well know that. Oh, I do you misinterpret a lot of shit. No, I interpret the way I see it. That's not misinterpretation. Its interpretation. It is whether you

Anthony:

like it or not still, you see it wrong. So that's the problem.

Michael:

No, it's not like giving me one plus one and I say four. It's one plus one is two. Now interpretation can be a matter of opinion. So that being said, You're wrong. She calls her a virgin who can't drive does that mean Ty is not a virgin? Yeah, and she can

Anthony:

drive. We already had this discussion during the breadstick moment. She's like, the only thing I like is when their thing is crooked. So Ty is not a virgin. We already knew this.

Michael:

ties. Tie knows. Well. Not only is she not a virgin, she knows what shape she prefers.

Anthony:

Yes, she's had different shapes and sizes.

Michael:

She's had What's it called? She's had a pretzel rod she's had breadstick different different ones. You know maybe even an A Claire. I don't know. Maybe How are you? Are you aren't you? Are you ready to read this next? I'm

Anthony:

ready. All right. So after go for after share takes a long self reflecting walk out and about thinking about why she's bothered by ties romantic interests in Josh. She finally realizes she's actually in love with Josh. She is totally 100% but crazy in love with Josh. She begins making awkward but sincere efforts to live a more personal purposeful life including cap, captaining the school's Pismo Beach disaster relief effort, giving them some skis, which was nice sharing Josh eventually follow through on their feelings for one another culminating in a tender kiss at the top of the stairs of a fucking $5 million home. Ultimately shares friendships with nice deonar solidified Ty and Travis are dating the Hall Miss guys get married and share catches the wedding bouquet helping Josh win a $200 bet. She then embraces Josh and they kiss. Oh,

Michael:

what Okay, now there's a phrase that she says in here what is kind of a Baldwin mean?

Anthony:

That means a good looking guy. Remember a Barney is ugly a Baldwin is a good looking guy. Oh, that's what that is. Yeah. Oh, okay. I get it. So Barney is ugly. Yes. A Barney is ugly.

Michael:

So you've heard that before? Because you are one they've explained it all. No, I'm sharing you know it because you are a Barney.

Anthony:

Okay, well, you're a fucking Dino.

Michael:

With the flexor Dino.

Anthony:

uglier than Barney. Um,

Michael:

I'm a bam bam. Okay,

Anthony:

now you're a dino because you're old and ugly. And purple.

Michael:

You're Mr. slate. You're a Mr. Slate because you're an asshole. I'm okay with that. And here's the thing Why does share wear so many shirts over shirts? Like it was? layer?

Anthony:

You layer fashion

Michael:

answer was ship. I never did that back then I lived it.

Anthony:

I you have no room to ever discuss or put down some base fashion choices at all?

Michael:

What? t shirts and jeans is is not an out of fashion ever. So don't say that. I'm out of fashion.

Anthony:

Yeah, but when we went to the one place and your wife's giving you shit because you were the one shirt that you ran out of mothballs for. They had fucking holes all over it.

Michael:

I love my shirt. apparent work to this day. I work this. I worked. I work Wednesday night to trivia

Anthony:

Well, there's so many holes in it looks like you physically loved it many times. And I can tell I can tell because they were very small holes to you.

Michael:

Yeah, that must be some of Ty's friends. Were poking holes in my shirt. So I love her Pismo Beach relief efforts like you said the the skis donating caviar. Like Daddy, you don't need this. You didn't like that. Red caviar. Oh, and then the and then dividing the things into entree and appetizer and the boxes. Yeah. What the fuck? Oh, man, some you know, she she means well, she means well, she's trying I guess effort is as is definitely needed. It has. Now the the the dumbest thing about this whole section is Travis and a recovery program for weed. I don't. Well, he isn't like that though.

Anthony:

I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna assume it wasn't just weed though.

Michael:

You're gonna say maybe he has some other stuff. He

Anthony:

was doing a 12 step then. We're just gonna assume that just like we're assuming Ty is probably tried stuff other than weed. I'm gonna assume there's more involved in weed if he's in 12.

Michael:

So she she reacted to coke. I mean, she had a reaction to get it. Oh, maybe I can get coke type of react. Right? Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. Yeah, but yeah, yeah. 12 hour recovery program for weed fucking a man. It's called just don't buy it. I mean, there's not it's not addictive. I mean, yeah, it's addictive. like video games are addictive. If you didn't have ever had another video game, you wouldn't you wouldn't die from not playing them. Same with weed. You know, you while with other drugs, hard ones. Your body has chemical reactions that hallucinations, right. Things like that you go through so? Yeah, so that is that's why it's kind of like fucking weird. It's fucking weird. Okay,

Anthony:

I don't know. I think it is cool. though. It's a different level. There's addictions, though. You can still get addicted to it. You get addicted to video games. You get people addicted to porn. They get addicted to weed addictive behavior. But I understand you're talking there's different withdrawal system symptoms, though. They make a difference. But it's still, you know, there's a difference to it.

Michael:

an addiction that willpower can overcome is a lot easier than addiction. That is physical. Yes, that's right. Yeah. So it's nice that Ty and Travis do end up together though. Because they should have been together all along. Just like we said a couple maybe shares fucked up influence made them become better people in the end anyways. Possibly. Possibly. Possibly. That's your Oh, it's possible. But possibly. Possibly now do you? Do you like the way her father's employee treated her? I think he's getting his ass fired. He walked out on that case.

Anthony:

Now he didn't walk out he said he was calling in sick to catch up. What she messed up. He wasn't walking out.

Michael:

Does she know who she's? He's only know who he's talking to.

Anthony:

Yeah. His daughter.

Michael:

She has cool. He's gonna tell

Anthony:

Yeah, but she just highlighted a shit ton of stuff for the September 3 conversations.

Michael:

Yeah. She was told to do Vince originally.

Anthony:

Right for something else.

Michael:

Yeah. So but that guy telling her I'm calling off and calling her names in front of Josh, and then storming out. I think he just got his ass fired, because she's gonna say, Hey, your guy did this. And you know, unless he's that valuable to the team, I can tell you her father seems like he would be he would be like, you're out here. Fucking bounce.

Anthony:

I don't think they told him.

Michael:

You don't think so?

Anthony:

I think in the if you really think about it, she's already worried about setting the case backs and if you fire one of the people working on the case, you're gonna be farther back.

Michael:

But Josh told her I can fix it. It's no big deal. I think he cleans it up. And then still can tell him and he and be like, he was a dick. We fixed it was okay. He was just being an asshole. He just wanted excuse not to come to work.

Anthony:

I know he didn't he was calling in sick to catch up stuff. I don't think he was calling in to avoid work he was calling in to get more done. Anyway, so I don't think it's something we need to talk about because it doesn't fucking matter at all. Literally, does not matter at all. Fuck you matters to me. Doesn't matter at all.

Michael:

So um, so you know, after that they all they have their moment and then end up kissing. Isn't she under age still? Because she's just learning how to drive. Right?

Anthony:

So she's, she's fit? No, yeah. No. She says at the she's 16. Isn't that what she says? The only 16 this is California. Not Kentucky. Did you say 15? Or 16? Yeah, that's where 1616 it was because she took her driver's test and she had to be 16 to do that.

Michael:

But that's under age still to be kissing an adult in college.

Anthony:

I don't think it's under age and former step siblings. It's not under it's not illegal to kiss them. It. I mean, if he kissed her somewhere else that would be illegal.

Michael:

We know that that's gonna happen. I mean, come on. It's like it's it's a relationship. That's taboo from the beginning. No shit. They're related. It's not illegal was I thought was a wrestler though. I'm just saying that that I hear hears about it. What's going to happen? We didn't get to see that we don't get to see that payoff. We don't get to see that. That sucks.

Anthony:

I know. I feel like he knows about it at this point, because they seem okay with it.

Michael:

Or maybe there's a scene that's deleted Where? And he actually, that's the reason he let him come around because he likes him for her daughter, his daughter, maybe? I don't know, I could see that happening. Or I could see him getting out the 45 and a shovel. I don't know which one. I don't think go both ways. He likes Josh. That's why I let him come around. Okay, that's why he was smart.

Anthony:

back into the family in a different way.

Michael:

And he's a lawyer. Yeah. Yep. Wanting to be so um, so they go to the wedding. And she created that wedding man. She made it happen. Really? It's her. It's all her brainchild. So she should be proud. She should make create a love connection. She should be. She did one good thing and it was great. That love connection. That was probably the one good thing she did in the movie. Otherwise, I mean, you could say the Pismo Beach. I was gonna

Anthony:

say the people in Pismo Beach that got fucking free skis and caviar. I think they're pretty happy to

Michael:

stoke brother going to Vail

Anthony:

and somebody. Somebody somebody's got a case of bongs too. So by all right.

Michael:

That's aged well. Now that would be vintage balm. So yes. Oh, and now Dion. Dion's thing for hats we didn't talk about earlier. But in this he has another crazy hat. Yes. How many crazy hats as you have in this?

Anthony:

Several she's Yeah. been shopping with Dr. Seuss. Again. Yeah.

Michael:

It's awful, man. That's awful. And then then the $200 for the bouquet. That's kind of rough. Man. They were violent. I don't know if I'd be down with that whole bouquet fight. Well, they were missing a tooth.

Anthony:

They were gone for it. You know, I know. We also too, and I just because we're getting towards the end of this. I think we just I want at least mentioned because we didn't talk about Amber. That was a good character. We really didn't discuss her. Yeah. And also Julie Brown.

Michael:

That was keeping the dresses.

Anthony:

Yes. And Julie Brown, the gym teacher? Oh, yeah. She

Michael:

was a trope, though.

Anthony:

I know. But still, she was she was good in that. In that role. I liked it. She especially at the end,

Michael:

she was the gym teacher true. The feminist gym teacher trope. I get that. And then the one girl who's always copying her style when they'd show up to the party,

Anthony:

the same dress, who also was in as we mentioned earlier, talked about ninth Roxbury.

Michael:

Oh, see, you know how to connect this one

Anthony:

number. She's one of the girls that they lost their virginity to.

Michael:

Oh, wow. I did not remember that. See? I haven't watched that movie since since then. Because it's not one of my favorites. I

Anthony:

can't believe we actually had a sex with these.

Michael:

Yeah, I remember that. Now. Yeah, it's it's, it's Yeah, that's a good movie. So we're that's it. That's this movie in a nutshell. That's Are you ready to pack it with six things? six things.

Anthony:

I can do more but Okay, we'll do it. We'll do our six pack. I'll go first.

Michael:

Alright, I just want to say cuz we never do. Our six pack is where we basically talk about our favorite scenes in the movie. And we generally have six of them sometimes more, rarely less. Are you ready?

Anthony:

Ready. All right. My first one is just the vernacular that Amy Heckerling created for the movie. You even talked about? You didn't know Baldwin and Barney's you know, and just as if, and you know, all the all the different Valley talk, if you will, that she created for them. Yeah, was awesome. It really I mean, it's kind of what separates this movie and makes it It's its own movie that like you, you know, there's not really anything you can compare it to very much. She created this whole world basically.

Michael:

No, there it is. Cool. And you know what? When we originally did this a few months ago, I came up with the top five slang words and phrases of the 90s I want to throw out there now so I'm gonna throw them out there for you that I had. I had talked to the hand as if buya all that and a bag of chips and cha ching. Those are five and tell us anything missing that you can think of? Not to up is a good one, but not not that came out in the 80s Oh, people

Anthony:

brought that back though. I'm like, that should have just died and stayed dead.

Michael:

It should have it should have died and died a good death. All right, so I'm going to give you my first six pack. All right. My first thing is Radiohead being in the movie throughout the movie, I love Radiohead so much that I love hearing it in this movie, you know fake plastic trees. His favorite song of mine, so definitely loved hearing that song in this movie. I know that doofus over here probably isn't a big Radiohead fan cuz I am. Music he listens to ICP.

Anthony:

I don't listen to ICP. I used to as a teenager, you cock knocker?

Michael:

I forget when you had your worst taste possible. Yeah, right. teenagers have the worst. Look at how you dressed at that time. You're like, Oh, shit, I was a shit show.

Anthony:

I like to think that what my point when I had my worst taste possible is when I started doing this podcast, but whatever difference of opinion,

Michael:

that's when you elevated your style. Are you ready?

Anthony:

I'm ready. All right. Another thing that really makes this movie what it is, is the wardrobe shares dress iconic, the yellow plaid dress, but everything else again, we talked about Dion's hats, Murray, his fashion choices, BMW hat and shit like that. And like, and then again, just the different sex sect. I said, Just see, you know, have sex. You know, kids, wearing like, you know, again, the skateboard kids and whatnot and then like the yuppies Elton's crew, but I think the the wardrobe planning for this really does also set this movie apart. And it was really well done.

Michael:

Excellent. That's a good choice. And I'm going to, I'm gonna do mine and it'll kind of piggyback on what you just said, Okay, here you go. So my next one is Christian. His wardrobe, and everything about his whole weird vibe. Well, I find it weird. It's a good character. I mean, he is unique in this movie to anyone else in the movie. No one else is like him. It's almost like he's in a different movie than everyone else. That's pretty much Yeah, he's in a 1950s Rebel Without a Cause, but with a gay lead. That's what we really need. It's good off. Oh, yeah, they should have somebody should have made something like that. But the problem is in the 90s, you couldn't get away without art. I'm watching you on your camera and you're like bouncing around like a weirdo. What's going on over there?

Anthony:

testing my seat a little bit.

Michael:

Oh, you need an adjustment. Okay. Are you ready for you're ready? There you go. It's the wrong one. Sorry. Sorry. Dammit. ere we go.

Anthony:

All right. My last one. There's so many quotable things from this movie. Like there is but you're a virgin who can't drive. That was way harsh tie both of those lines. I still bugging quote that today. All the time. Oh, so just my wife. Like that's one of our favorite lines from movie ever. It's just it is. So that's one of my favorite things came out that movie too, among others, but

Michael:

all right. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. He has a lot of things in this movie you could probably take if you want to. here's a here's my last one. Dan had a in general her father. I like his character as well. But you know where it says 45 and a shovel. And a few other things, how he's proud of her for negotiating her grades. Just he was he played that role very well. Yes, he was a good dad in this movie.

Anthony:

And just like in Roxbury. Alright, which we talked about Yeah, action. He's the dad and Roxbury to

Michael:

my gosh, isn't it amazing that the Tommy it's it makes sense to say produce both movies? Yeah. Produce both movies. So. Alright, are we ready? For our generic moments? Ready? Bert? Me. Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna I'll go first. Okay, are you ready? Okay. Yes. Okay, my generic thing is the use of the term retard or is she to Space Cadet basically maligning people on intelligence, a little bit too much. It Back then we used it. But now when you go back and watch it, it has your like, you know, sometimes you watch movies, you're like, cringe a little at the things you did. And you realize that maybe we shouldn't use some terms because other people who might be offended who should be offended if it's used that way. It's basically using you as an example of what is bad and that's not nice to do. Okay, so, so there you go.

Anthony:

Okay. All right. Are you ready? I'm writing. Even though you can look past it. It's still weird. hooking up with your brother at the end of the movie. The brother sister thing it's, it is funny, but it's so fucking weird. Like, what are not related related? But they were still brother and sister.

Michael:

Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's goofy shit.

Anthony:

Keep it in the family. I

Michael:

get it. I get it. I mean, I have step family. I would never have slept with them. So there you go. I don't think they would sleep with you either. So that's okay. Do you think it's more? Yeah, you think it's more from their direction to me? I get it all. Yeah. All right. So a couple things. I've got some facts. Are you ready for some facts? Right for some facts. This? This is based on Jane Austen's Emma, the book. The director, studied real Beverly Hills High schoolers hung out in the high schools and watch them so there might be actual real things but more exaggerated in this movie, you know, that are going on silver Silverstone, actually mispronounced hadrians or Haitians. And they kept it so she actually said it the wrong way not knowing the right way. And they liked the cut so much. They kept that cut Accidentally on Purpose. So Accidentally on Purpose. Another person who was up for this role of Cher was Reese Witherspoon, which they kind of have a very similar look. So that makes sense. A person who was offered the role. Are you ready for this? I'm ready. Sarah Michelle Gellar. She was bound to all my children that I don't know if she could have done this movie. I don't know. She can play that type of person. Right? Yeah, she's pretty good. And she totally had Cruel Intentions, but it was a different type of high schooler she's all that she was

Anthony:

epic in that. She really did not want pepper.

Michael:

Yeah, she just Well, just with you. You got everything you needed from just emotion. Not even a word. Nailed it. Silverstone so I want to tell you Silverstone got this role because of her performance in the crush the Aerosmith videos. Oh, it was the cross with videos. Now the Aerosmith video

Anthony:

Yes, I know the Aerosmith. But nevermind. Go ahead.

Michael:

That's what got her the attention that that got Renner, Jamie, you know, Jeremy Renner or whatever his name is, was up for Christian and Paul rajul. Both of them. So one of the other? Yeah. Let's see, whatever that this is a part of an unofficial trilogy when we already talked about Fast Times at ridgemont High. They say this is the second movie. So they must exist in the same universe. These three. Yeah. And the movie loser, which was Jason Biggs, which I find slightly entertaining. So there you go. That's it. Those are some facts for you. Are you ready to rate this bit?

Anthony:

That one I had to just kind of nod off because I already knew all that stuff. You do get me with some facts sometimes. But those already knew

Michael:

me because I said them to you a few months ago. I

Anthony:

knew them before that every damn one of them. Just say

Michael:

every one of those you knew. I did. I got I had to teach you now. Jeremy Jeremy Renner up for Chris Paul Rudd's role. Yes, you heard it from me. That's why are you

Anthony:

mad about clueless many times? I'm ready. Okay.

Michael:

I should have went deeper. Okay, here you go. Shut up.

Anthony:

If only you were physically equipped to go deeper, that's the problem. Are you going first or my view are compose yourself, man. Okay, regardless of what croc sniffer is going to say about this movie, I'm gonna say, this is one of my favorite movies of all time. It is amazing. It is its own movie. There's not even if it's part of the loosely part of the trilogy, there's not much you can compare this to. It does its own thing. It doesn't Well, it even gets you okay. With incest a little bit. That's the mark of a good movie. Make you feel comfortable with it? Not really. But that's still weird to me. But overall, everything about this movie, the cast, he said, The soundtrack is great. The wardrobe everything. We're talking about all the great stuff. It's It's amazing. It's so fun. is such a great movie. You could watch anytime. For that reason. I give this 21 cans. Now. Pickled deer. Can you unmute? Yeah, okay. No, I

Michael:

didn't say anything. I was just, that's different than what you gave it originally. Well,

Anthony:

I don't care. I'm more of sound mind. I guess you're obviously 21 cans.

Michael:

Do you? Yeah. Okay. Well, you had a higher the last time. So

Anthony:

did I think 21 is fair? Yeah. Oh, man. Well, I had it higher. But then I got into my 12 step program donated my shit to Pismo Beach. So now I'm more lucid. So I get to 21.

Michael:

All right. Okay, so now that you've heard the wrong opinion, I'm going to give you the right one. Back when this movie came out. I thought it was not that great. But I probably thought it was trash. It didn't identify with me. And I had just graduated a couple years before it came out. I didn't see it as anything that spoke to me, I would have given it extremely low rating. Since then, it has grown on me a little bit. It has some great actors that are hiding in here, you know, back then you didn't Paul Rudd wasn't Paul Rudd in 1995. But I'm still not a fan of this movie. in general. There's a lot of things that just annoys the shit out of me about it. I'm not a fan. I'm don't like share. There you go. But because I appreciate the art, I have raised my score over time. And with me, it's just a slightly above average. So I gave it 13.5 cans. You're an asshole, which puts the average between both of us at 17.25 cans, which makes it a pretty good movie. Actually. That's a that's above average movie. That's an above average movie. So there you go. As people want to be above average, people think it's the best ever. It's not that this movie is not the best movie ever. compared to some of the other ones we've done. Okay. I always like to compare it to you and I both gave stand by me extremely high score. Would you say there's anywhere near approaching how good that movie is?

Anthony:

Not in that sense, but in its own sense?

Michael:

I don't think so. I can I can look at them both and say which one's a better film? This is not even close to as good a film shut. Shut up, though. Okay. Don't be that. Those are my feelings. They're valid. Those are my feelings. You don't have feeling right. So what do you want to tell some of these people now that we're done and they know how much I hate this movie now hate it but how much lukewarm? I am now that you love it. But what do you want to tell him now that we're on our way out of here?

Anthony:

Don't ever listen to what this freakin Nickelback fan says to you again. He's obviously wrong and doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. But other than that, you can listen. Nickelback, that was crazy. Oh, dude, that's that's creed. You muted yourself.

Michael:

I just did for a second. I guess I had to clear my throat. I didn't want to like do them. So anyways, go ahead. Um, alright.

Anthony:

So don't listen to the guy who doesn't even know who Nickelback is. But listen to the show. Nickelback fan. Thank you. Alright, thank you guys for listening. We appreciate it. Please check us out. Go to the website. Follow us like us leave comments. Let us know any movies you'd like to do. We really would appreciate that. We again, thank you very much for listening. We hope you were entertained somewhat. I am rolling out with the homies now rolling with the homeys Coco, Coco, Coco you know what some people are looking at that point you just got to say are you ready Ba ba ba ba ba ba

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